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308 two-valve injected cars up in value?

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  1. RAMMER

    RAMMER Formula 3

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    I was looking at the Cavallino price guide and it listed early injected cars as going up in value. If I remember correctly their price range is listed as $28k to $52k. That is more than the early steel carbed cars that every one seems to love. That is also on par with early glass cars ($30-$50k) which most believe to be the most desired. I have noticed on Ebay that the 80-82s are getting plenty of love from bidders. This is contrary to every buyers guide I have ever seen who label these as the least desireable and slow of the 308s. Is the tide turning? What are your thoughts?

    -I hope my figures are correct as they come only from memory.
    -I mean no disrespect to early injected cars.
     
  2. bergxu

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    Gee I hope that's really the case, I can retire early! :D

    Cheers,
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    '82 GTSi
     
  3. Dr Tommy Cosgrove

    Dr Tommy Cosgrove Three Time F1 World Champ Owner Rossa Subscribed

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    Unfortunately, they are and will always be the least desirable but they are also my favorite in the series.
     
  4. BigAl

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    I have seen increasing 308 prices, anecdotally perhaps, but still, ebay, FML, etc
     
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    Just curious, why are the two-valves your favorite?

    Matt
     
  6. Steve Magnusson

    Steve Magnusson Two Time F1 World Champ Lifetime Rossa

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    If you guys haven't noticed, everything's up (or holding up higher). Not sure that that's better or worse for those of us living on the scraps ;), but I was/am astonished by the TR asking prices in the last FML.

    (Neglecting the fact that just the beautiful coachwork on any 308B/S will give it some immunity to unwantedness) There's a very elegant simplicity in the 2-OHV Hemi cyl. head designs IMO that will always add future desirability (even on pushrod-based Hemi -- 2V Hemi F are just even better).
     
  7. Dr Tommy Cosgrove

    Dr Tommy Cosgrove Three Time F1 World Champ Owner Rossa Subscribed

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    They were the ones being produced when I first discovered them back in 1980 when I was 12. I actually remember the 3 years before the 4V and even when I first read that a new 4V was in development. The 2V was the first Ferrari I ever sat in and was the first Ferrari I ever rode in. Magnum drove one for 3 of the first 4 seasons. So between 1980 and 1983 I was buying magazines and chasing down only 2V's with my camera (I still have all the pictures). I used to draw the little funny slanted "i" in my notebooks in high school, etc., etc. because it was the only model out. Then things changed. I never really loved the black painted vents or even the extra one on the hood because it just wasn't the same. This is why my 84 looks like an 82 all the way down to the Nardi wheel and antenna switch on the console AND the GTSi on the rear. That's how I remember them when I wanted one so bad I could barely stand it.

    I could absolutely care less how slow they are or how much oil they can burn. I don't care one little bit about that.

    You like what you like and I like those cars the best. I already have my eye on my next one and guess what? It's and 81 and happens to be the very first one I rode in back in 10th grade. THE car. I am just waiting for the original (yes original) owners to let it go. When they do I'll be there with money in hand.

    Who says you can't go home again?
     
  8. BigAl

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    similar for me except it was a Pantera.
     
  9. Bullfighter

    Bullfighter Two Time F1 World Champ Lifetime Rossa Owner

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    The two-valve cars are slow, but with the horsepower wars (500bhp M5s and Corvettes, etc.) pretty much any '80s sports car is now an also-ran from a top-tier performance perspective. My 328 can certainly leave any 2-valve 308 far behind, but that's becoming irrelevant as the 328 can't run with a new base Porsche 911.

    I think that's why I didn't feel any regret at passing on 348s and 355s -- faster cars, but over time the looks and driving experience of all of these cars are going to matter more than 0-60. And, as you've pointed out, there's something very clean about earlier 308s with the subtler louvres.
     
  10. Dr Tommy Cosgrove

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    I can tell you for sure that I am not about to go stoplight to stoplight with anyone with my 4V. So it really doesn't matter now whether my 308 is an 84 or an 82 as far as that goes.
     
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    Same here!

    And yes, they are going up.

    Exactly. The ONLY "problem" with my Mondi is 0-60, and even then more like just the slow first gear acceleration. After that, it is as fast as I could ever use.
     
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    Thanks! That would be incredible if you could get that 81, what a story!

    Matt
     
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    Will this be like a chain-reaction that if the 2v 308 goes up in value is this mean the QV 308 will also go up as well?
     
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    already has as per FML
     
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    That's even more of a reason why I want the factory to redo my interior and get the classic certification.
     
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    Go for it matteo I think its worth it, I would if I could.
     
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    I am still waiting to hear back from Shannon @ FNA about setting it up. I am going to call her back on Friday if I don't hear from her before then
     
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    tell me more or plz point me to more info....
     
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    It's on the owners site and it has been documented in the new Cavallino.

    Here is the jist.....

    The Ferrari Classiche certification programme was created to provide owners with a document that attests the originality of their car.

    The service is open to owners of (1) Ferrari’s GT cars over 20 years old, and (2) F1 single-seaters, sports-racers and sports-prototypes of all ages.

    Those interested in obtaining the certificate for cars that respect the relative criteria may send in a request using the form provided (see pdf file on the right).

    Once the request form and the technical specification form - complete with the documentation required - has been received, Ferrari Classiche will start the certification procedure to determine, on the basis of specific criteria of authenticity, whether the car in question is original. The assessment process carried out by Ferrari Classiche’s experts and consultants is extremely rigorous.

    Details and costs relative to the certification procedure are given in the General Conditions contained in the request form.

    As well as attesting the originality of cars, with effect from the 1st of January 2004 the authenticity certificate will be required for all vehicles taking part in official Ferrari classic car events.

    For the application form and technical specifications sheet to fill out as well as full details of the procedures and the criteria to comply with, please click on the relevant PDF download on the right-hand side of this page.

    To obtain the certificate, owners must:

    1) read (i) the general conditions concerning the certification procedure indicated in the request form and (ii) the authenticity criteria;
    2) print the request form, fill in all the fields and sign the form;
    3) print the technical specification sheet, fill in all the fields indicated and attach the photographs requested;
    4) send all the documentation (request form, technical specifications sheet and attachments) to Ferrari Classiche, Ferrari SpA, Via Abetone Inferiore 4, 41053 Maranello (MO), Italy and effect payment to Ferrari of the sum of €500.00 (five hundred).

    Once Ferrari has accepted the application for the certification procedure, the final cost of the process will be comunicated to the client on the basis of the maximum costs applicable as laid out in the application form.
     
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    thnx for the info. 500 euros and then more, man, you really gotta' want it....
     
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    My car is all original (no mod's, all factory service, all books and tools) and then I had the seats redone and what not. I was pretty happy with the results but it was always bugging me that I did not get it done by the dealer. I want to get the car back to 100% and I called Shannon to see about getting the factory to redo the car (interior and suspension) or recommending a local dealer or shop that the factory would consider to have the same level that the factory would do. I figured having the cert would add to the value of the car in time.

    Since I am not a fan of moding cars, I figured it was a win/win.
     
  22. RAMMER

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    It is true that all 308s and Mondials are going up in value. I was just somewhat surprized that Cavallino's price guide (which I assume is based on sales) has early injected cars selling for as much as the other more celebrated models. Can someone post the actual Cavallino values for 308s?
     
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    Bump! Can someone post the actual Cavallino values for 308s?
     
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    Wow I would have thought we would have a post by now..
     
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    Are the Cavallino values based on asking prices like FML, or actual sale prices?
     

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