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  1. sainthoo

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    Are these the same block (I think the answer is yes). I have a 308 QV motor that I need to rebuild; however, this is rather expensive. I have found a wrecked 328 Mondial, so I think I could just drop the 328 motor into my 308 for the next year or two. Are the transmission identical?

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  2. JV's89

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    Not sure if this helps or not, but when I had to replace the heads on my 328, I used rebuilt ones from a 308QV. I was told they were the same.
     
  3. greyboxer

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    There was one of these done in the UK a few years ago and my recollection was that fitting the mechanicals was relatively easy but that the injection & ignition etc electronics were very time consuming to install - actually thinking about it was most likely an i not qv which might explain it
     
  4. Iain

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    ISTR that the Mondi (at least the QV) has a hydraulic clutch. The 308/328 is cable driven but I would have tough it should be possible to sort that one out.
     
  5. sainthoo

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    The transmission can come with the motor for a very reasonable price, so I am not sure if that will help.
     
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    Convert to carbs?
     
  7. PV Dirk

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    I don't know how possible this is but I'm thinking use the long block (block and heads) and use your cars current intake/fuel system. It would save the hassles of the electrical. Maybe.
     
  8. f308jack

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    IIRC the 328 uses 1 sensor for the ignition against 3 for the 308, so get the complete ignition with it.
    I'd certainly get the gearbox as well, aren't the final drive ratio's different?

    Since you're now going away from original, a set of carbs on there would be sweet...
     
  9. duck.co.za

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    I looked at doing just this with my car . It would seem that the engine mount configuration changed when they went to the 328 . So you would need to put the 328 motor onto your box and with a set of carbs you would never rebuild your QV motor !!!!
     
  10. Newman

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    If the heads are the same then the intake from the QV will fit the 328 - fuel delivery problem solved. The sensors are either in the bellhousing or the adapter not the block so mix and match bellhousings if there is a problem with the number of sensors. I would use all the QV controls, ignition and fuel and concentrate on putting the 328 longblock in rather than a fully dressed 328 engine. I guess its possible the block to gearbox shape changed so if thats the case use the gearbox but it wouldnt make sense that ferrari changed the locations of the 4 frame mounts. When ferrari went drysump like on a 355 they changed the shape of the block for the oil pump, the 328 isnt like that.
     
  11. duck.co.za

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    I'm not absolutely sure but I think the chassis cross rails changed and the 328 box won't drop into the QV . It's a while ago I looked at it and there was a problem ! The 328 motor will go straight onto the QV box . As Newman says you could mix and match bellhousings and clutch covers to get the correct sensors and a cable clutch .
     
  12. hyenahf

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    what would you do with the slave cylinder operated clutch? change it to a mechanical or modify the pedal box to hydraulic? if you want a complete 3.2 motor/trans, look for one from a 328 rather than mondial, it would save you some hassles.
     
  13. sainthoo

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    Found 2 308 QV motors ready to go, so I will not be attempting fate.
     
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  15. sainthoo

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    Nice! BTW - l loved watching what you did.
     
  16. tommott77

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    On an unrelated, related note, would a QV motor fit right in a 2V 308? Just a pipe dream of mine that would probably never come to fruition, but if it did.... I would be going with a carb setup so the fuel system would be relatively straight forward. Not sure about the actual fit, the electricals, and the water though?
     
  17. Grahame

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    Hi Christian,

    I dropped a 328 motor out of a 1987 Mondial into my 1977 308gt4. It bolted straight onto the gearbox exactly with no problems.

    Cheers,
    Grahame
     

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