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  1. miketuason

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    #1 miketuason, May 21, 2009
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    I guess it's true, nothing is impossible like the guy with the 12 cylinders project. Yesterday I stop by the Black Horse Fshop in Los Angeles and was surprise to see this, a 308 with the 355 motor and transaxle/transmission. I was talking to the technician who put this together and he said that the convertion was easy the only hard part is installing the twin turbo, but once that was sorted away he said the performance is superb in a way that it can keep up with the 360 Modenas without any problem. I know they need to do something about the wheels or the rear fender panel but that's yet to come.

    What's everyone's thought about this?
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  2. Spitfire

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    #2 Spitfire, May 21, 2009
    Cool, but then I often like these "wolf in sheep's clothing" kind of affairs.

    I'm guessing that the turbos will melt out the tail lights.
     
  3. miketuason

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    #3 miketuason, May 21, 2009
    I'm sure they'll think of something
     
  4. Rv5

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    #4 Rv5, May 21, 2009
    i would think a 308 with a 355 engine should be able to keep up with the 360 no problem without turbos. adding turbos should put it into supercar performance, blowing doors off a 360.
     
  5. BigTex

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    #5 BigTex, May 21, 2009
    That's ExcelsiorZ's car..he posts here all the time...
     
  6. Wade

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    #6 Wade, May 21, 2009
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    There are a lot of ratty 308s available. Why spend to restore when you can "upgrade" for a lot less. I'm sure there will be plenty of unused parts to sell (during and afterwards) which can help finance the project.

    Personally, the turbos are a bit much for a 355 motored 308. Plus, in this case, you have the wheel/body mods to contend with. But, I think the engineering for this is awesome!
     
  7. FluidPrawn

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    #7 FluidPrawn, May 21, 2009
    Where do you even find a used 355 motor? I've always wanted to build a *project* using a Ferrari engine.
     
  8. mustardfj40

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    #8 mustardfj40, May 21, 2009
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    The engine looks like it belongs in there. Love too see the details of how that 355 sub frame is fit in the 308 frame.
     
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    #9 Speedmade, May 21, 2009
    Ebay
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    And here's a 355 right hear you in Madison, WI
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  10. miketuason

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    #10 miketuason, May 21, 2009
    +100 without a doubt!
     
  11. bert308

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    #11 bert308, May 21, 2009
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    An email I received march 2006 from fchat member Tristam Buckley (some will know him...)

    And

     
  12. mustardfj40

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    #12 mustardfj40, May 21, 2009
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    Wow! That's a 358 GTO with composite panels. I wonder what's the plan for front suspension/brakes and if it's a 6-speed. It could a good looking GTO re-body and with an engine to match. Please ask the guy to fit in Tubi with straight pipe or something, that car will scream!!! Personally, I would lengthen the wheel base a little bit more.
     
  13. gamby

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    #13 gamby, May 21, 2009
    No shortage of dummies driving beyond their abilities. As long as the nose takes the hit, you've got your engine.

    I agree w/ the sentiment that it's a bit of overkill. I'd wonder about traction issues w/ that much power. Also--I'd hope htey were beefing up the rest of the car to handle that power.

    Regardless--sick project. Certainly is ambitious. I'll be curious to see the rear bodywork.
     
  14. Irishman

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    #14 Irishman, May 21, 2009
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    For ******* ' s sake why?

    Frankenstein.
     
  15. davebdave

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    #15 davebdave, May 21, 2009
    I agree. I never liked the look of the sideways engine in the 308. Seems too much like a front wheel drive set up mounted in the back. He needs to re-badge it to 308t (cinque valvole).
     
  16. enjoythemusic

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    #16 enjoythemusic, May 21, 2009
    Because the 308 is a DOG in power compared to even a basic modern sports car? Maybe the guy will track the car and graduated from the 308/Miata club? Hey, i did thoough got real and used a Formula 2000 as my track SCCA race weapon :)
     
  17. Steve King

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    #17 Steve King, May 21, 2009
    OK where the hell do you put the golf clubs??????????
     
  18. CliffBeer

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    #18 CliffBeer, May 21, 2009
    It would be a lot easier to put in an all aluminum small block ford stroked to 347 with a bunch of go fast bits - same power with 1/3 the price and no turbo lag...

    In any case, interesting project there. No doubt the concours wine-and-cheese crowd will sneer at it however.
     
  19. Brian Harper

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    #19 Brian Harper, May 21, 2009
    That's an excellent point. He should have done this to a GT4, then the clubs could go in the back.
     
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    #20 airdelroy, May 22, 2009
    I think he would have to remove the back seat in that case, but at least you would get to hear more of the engine!!

    Aaron
     
  21. miketuason

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    #21 miketuason, May 22, 2009
    Passenger side:)
     
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    #22 Spasso, May 22, 2009
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    Because if people didn't try to improve and expand on another's design we would all be driving Ferraris' that looked and drove like the Trabant 601.
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    #23 bert308, May 22, 2009
    The waiting list for a Trabant was much longer than for a Ferrari
     
  24. f308jack

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    #24 f308jack, May 23, 2009
    Who cares what someone else thinks about your car?

    I have been tossing the idea around in my head for some time now, just need to find a 308 GTB derelict enough to sacrifice it.

    I don't think the turbo's are needed, and I certainly wouldn't have chosen a GTS for this conversion, but man, all that space in the back is screeming for exactly this.
     
  25. GTBmatt

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    #25 GTBmatt, May 23, 2009
    I think its an awesome idea. You know we all have at least thought about how great it might be to have a 355 motor singing back there. I never imagined with turbos though! Bravo, i'm glad there are some interesting projects going on here.
     
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