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308QV Distributer Removal

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  1. Andrew Bolton

    Andrew Bolton Karting

    Aug 20, 2004
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    I know that I appear to be a board hog, but I really don't know too much about Ferraris and want to as much as I can myself. At any rate, my next question arises while I'm trying to remove the distributer cap & rotor from the front bank. I've loosened the three screws which APPEAR to be holding the cap. But no luck. It feels solid against the valve cover. Am I missing something or is this rubber mallet time?

    Andrew
     
  2. FF8929

    FF8929 Formula Junior

    Apr 12, 2008
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    OH MY GOD, NEVER a mallet!!! Those things cost a fortune! I just took mine off and had the same problem. Use a putty knife. Place it in the joint between the cap and the valve cover and gently tap the back of the putty knife with that mallet your talking about. That should separate the two.
     
  3. Andrew Bolton

    Andrew Bolton Karting

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    Thanks for the reply. That's why I asked; they are expensive. I'll try the knife (I guess that means a new gasket too, huh?)

    Andrew
     
  4. desire308

    desire308 Formula 3

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    I don't think there is a gasket. There is one between the cam cover and the housing.
     
  5. FF8929

    FF8929 Formula Junior

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    There are gaskets on my 1983, or, at least, remnants of them..
     
  6. Andrew Bolton

    Andrew Bolton Karting

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    Okay the distributor cap is off and I've looked at the rotor. BTW, yes, there is a cork gasket around the cap area.

    The rotor contact appears to be slightly "crispy" along about half of its leading edge, but nothing too serious, in my opinion. I'm trying to figure out why the front bank is not firing properly. (the cat is overheating and the plugs on the front bank appear to have a too rich carbon deposits around the plug ring). Is this slight crispiness a sign that the rotor is the culprit? If not, then I guess that its on to the flywheel sensors or the coil itself (how do you test that?). The contacts on the inside of the distributor seem okay, not perfectly smooth or anything, but not burnt either.

    All help is appreciated.

    Andrew
     
  7. Andrew Bolton

    Andrew Bolton Karting

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    A small update (the edit feature doesn't show up anymore; what's up with that?).

    The plugs on the rear bank appear too rich too, so I'm back to square one. It can't be that both coils not working properly at the same time. It can't be both rotors/distributors not functioning properly (at the same time). It can't be both flywheel sensors are malfunctioning at the same time (recently replaced one of the sensors anyhow). And the front and back plugs do appear to fire (and at lower idle, it actually runs smoothly). Finally, I don't believe that the car can be tuned so rich as to run decently yet overheat the cat. Something is amiss and I cannot find it.

    I guess I simply have to give up and acknowledge that Ferraris are more complicated than my poor ability to diagnose them.

    Andrew
     
  8. desire308

    desire308 Formula 3

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    I think we need more history here. Are the slow down lights coming on as a result of the cats overheating? Has the mixture been re set at some point?

    My 81 2V is running a tad rich but I am making adjustments to the mixture as a result of new fuel injectors. Have you made any changes that could have caused this?
     
  9. desire308

    desire308 Formula 3

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    Just wanted to see what else you may have posted and came across your surge issue. I had a similar problem prior to cleaning, and ultimatly changing out the fuel injectors. It's a simple proceedure but you can also get some techron fuel injector cleaner [not the system cleaner]and try it for a few runs...could be that simple ;)
     
  10. Andrew Bolton

    Andrew Bolton Karting

    Aug 20, 2004
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    Thanks for the posts, no the injectors are clean enough at the moment, and I'm not sure that they are part of the overheating cat issue. Yes, the surging is a problem, but the hot cat is definitely the worse issue bothering me. I'm not sure if the surging is related to the overheated cat or not, but it definitely gets too hot underneath at times.

    I simply cannot put a finger on it and no one seems to have an idea here either (it's tough without looking at the car in person, I know).

    Surrender is looming as my last option. But after a competent mechanic does find out what the problem is, I'm going to listen carefully to him with a pipe wrench in my hand, and if it's something obvious, or something that I've already looked at, well, I've got a new parts car for you guys!

    Andrew
     
  11. desire308

    desire308 Formula 3

    Oct 19, 2007
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    Oh...no...be patient and don't beat yourself up! It took me a few days to realize I had a vacuum connection I missed causing my funky no start. She will come around for sure ;)
     

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