328 after market exhaust system

There is no "best" sounding system...it depends on what you prefer as for sound (or noise)...on the type of exhaust (catalysed, i.e US car; non-catalysed, i.e euro car); on the extent of your plan (and wallet): change the silencer only? or the full line (manifolds/headers; intermediary pipes, and silencer?)...
As for myself, having two "euro" 328s, I know now that if I decide to do it, the sound that for me corresponds exactly to what I have in mind is a "Tubi", and should I decide to do it, then I would go for the whole exhaust system: manifolds, intermediary pipes and silencer.

Rgds

 

I had a PD Gough exhaust box on my 3.2 mondial which was a nice tone- 304 stainless and lifetime warrenty. They sell under the Nouvalari name in the US.-lot cheaper than the big name ones, fab quality.

 

we in Italy often go for the Tubi, as they come from Maranello as the cars do.

I have two of their Stainless steel silencers and I'm very satisfied with them, both sound and power output.


ciao

 

My 328 had one of those on it when I bought it. It was very loud. I took it off and it has been sitting in my shed for ages, if anyone wants it they can have it. Probably only viable to UK owners though. I much prefer the original exhaust sound.

 

The one i had just had a nice tone but it was not what i would call loud, going down the motorway i could hear the radio as much with the Gough unit as the original Ansa. Makes you wonder if it was made louder than mine. Great quality through.

 

Some aftermarket exhausts are offered in different levels of "noise" (or "music", it is a question of vocabulary).
Tubis exist in "standard" and "loud" version; Quicksilver in "standard", "loud" and "race". Capristo in different stages (I, II, III), etc...

Rgds

 

I mounted in 2008 an X Ost from Maranello and love it. These guys started some 10 years ago and believe that the owners are former Tubi engineers. The sound is between standard and loud of Tubi is my opinion. See their web site:
x-ost maranello srl Maranello - Home

 

They are pretty close to me and I never knew this!

On a related issue, can anyone tell me how to ID the exhaust? Are there any stamps or other tell-tales to identify OEM, Ansa, Tubi etc?

 

The OEM one is quite recognisable as its not made from stainless steel but some other alloy which turns brown with use but is still rustproof (except for the joint flanges which do rust)

The Gough ones dont have any ID on them. I think the reason for this is they are produced in one workshop but then shipped out to other resellers who sell them under their own brand name. They are quite easy to spot though, I can post a pic of the one in my shed if you need.

I believe Tubi etc are branded on them.

 

Thanks Andy. I hate derailing threads, so I posted a couple of exhaust pics along with the other shots of my car: http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/308-328-sponsored-yellow-compass-group/533932-some-pics-my-new-78-gts-nero-3.html#post145002030

 

...with the proviso that the factory OEM exhaust boxes (or silencers) have to be divided in two groups for NON-Catalysed cars:
carbed cars and two valve injected on one hand / QVs and 328 on the other hand.

As far as "Standard Euro" cars (no cats) are concerned, what Andy says apply only to QVs and 328, which have the same OEM exhaust system: manifolds + intermediary pipes + exhaust silencer; they are exactly the same (same part number) on "standard continental" QVs and 328 (although German cars have a more muffled silencer)
Carbed cars and two valve injected have a different exhaust system, with no intermediary pipes but very long pipes going directly from the exhaust silencer to the manifolds: so their OEM exhaust box is completly different than the one from QVs/328

Catalysed cars (US cars after 1977; swiss / swedish 328s after mid 1987) have different exhaust systems (different manifolds, silencers, Y-pipes to the catalysator or catalysatorS when more than one, reverse routing of the rear header on 328s, etc...) I have no knowledge in the matter, but "Big Tex" (Alan) should be able to answer for carbed cars.

I think that Paul's (Vaccarella) cars are US models indeed, so here Andy's comments from his post above, about the OEM exhaust box apply for the "standard euro" (= non-catalysed) QVs and 328 exhaust silencer, but would not be valid for a US Car with cat(s) (carbed or 2-valve injected).

Rgds

 

My 328 had a stainless Borla, no cat, and Euro rear manifold installed when I bought it; sounded incredible, just like an F1 car, especially on the downshifts. I would purposely look for underpasses because I became addicted to the reverb. Kept it that way for a while and then reinstalled the factory system that luckily came with the car for concours events. Not as exciting from an aural POV, but at least I have plenty of Platinos to show for it. Still have that system in the basement...

 

If its an original ANSA it will be falling to bits by now, i rewelded mine a few times until nothing left worth welding. I think it had ansa stamped on it.
This is the PD Gough box
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The Gough work looks great. Sadly ( ! ) I now possess 2 near perfect exhausts so won't be visiting anytime soon. You can see the tips here http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/308-328-sponsored-yellow-compass-group/533932-some-pics-my-new-78-gts-nero-3.html#post145002030 . It's in very good condition, black crackle finish is still mostly there and it looks to have been swapped out for the oem back box from time to time. The car was clearly garaged well and I'm continuing the quality storage in my dehumidified garage. Whether it's original is difficult to say as I don't have the build / sales sheet. As a CA car for 97% of its life rather than salty England, it could well be

 

Novalari super sport!

 

My pic is the Novalari box.

 

But the Gough as posted by Mike32 would not fit on your car...
It is the later version of the non-catalysed exhaust box ( standard "continental euro") for the four valve engines (QVs and 328).
Your car needs the earlier version of exhaust box, and for catalysed 2-valve carbed engine.

Rgds

 

An aftermarket exhaust set for a two-valve car (non-catalysed); note the long pipes welded on the exhaust box, connecting directly to the manifolds.
(there are no intermediary pipes between manifolds and exhaust box, contrary to 4 valve engines; and an aside: the tubes of the manifolds, for the side going on the engine exhaust ports are round, whereas they are oval on four valve engines)

http://www.eurospares.co.uk/Tubistyle_Exhausts/Resources/Images/Ferrari/126.jpg

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A “Quicksilver” (no personal interest on the brand, just for illustration) “sport” exhaust, incorporating catalyst, for a carbed 308:

308 GTB GTS inc. Carb USA Spec - Sport Exhaust System (1975-81) - QuickSilver Exhausts

My guess is that the exhaust which is on Paul’s car is this one, or a variant of it: the OEM exhaust box for a dual catalysator engine:

http://img0102.psstatic.com/159259554_ferrari-308-dual-cat-oem-muffler---used-114683.jpg

Rgds

 

But the box which I took off my 328, non cat Euro was different, it is this one:

Its possible this is the "loud" version".
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My pic is of a box for a 3.2 mondial ( car in the background ), it is the quality of the product i was trying to show- they make them all

 

Oh yes, Mike, no problem, of course.
But it is important to keep in mind that these cars make a whole family of different models and versions, which models have quite a number of different exhausts, according to type of engine (2 valve vs 4 valves), non-catalysed car versus catalysed cars, etc...
DIfferent manifolds too (2 valves, round tubes; four valve, oval tubes) and Non-cat vs Cat, etc...
So when you decide to buy, better be sure of what you want and what you need...

Rgds

 

Looks to be, yes.
This one will fit on any of the four-valve, NON-Catalysed, engine (QV and/or 3,2), it is a direct replacement; it is not for a carbed car or a 2 valve injected (NON Cat), as it needs the two left/right intermediary pipes, which the original, NON-Cat, exhaust system for the two valve engine does not have.
It will not fit on any catalysed car of the whole family.

Rgds

 

I have the same system (as ya know) mine also currently resides hanging on the garage wall (alongside another standard system I picked up for next to nothing as a spare ).

I put a standard system under the car in 2011 & have never taken it off - its loud enough when I want it to be.

 

I know this surely differs over 10+ years of 308/328 not to mention cat & non-cat. But what in essence is the real world difference between the OEM exhaust and a typical ANSA for the period?