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328 clutch install problem. Please help

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  1. JV's89

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    I am in the process of installing a new clutch in my 89 328 and have a strange problem.

    Everything was going fine until I attempted to install and torque the drop gear ring nut. As soon as I start to tighten the nut the gear comes into contact with something and locks up. I can't tell for sure, but I think its locking against the bell housing.

    It's almost as if the transmission input shaft is out of place (too short) or the bell housing isn't tight - it is.

    I've been trying to figure this out for the last couple of hours, but I'm stumped.

    Any help would be much appreciated.

    John
     
  2. Iain

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    Have you got all the spacers behind the bearing in & the right way around? ISTR one of them was stepped.
     
  3. yelcab

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    Did you open up any other part of the transmission including the shift rod, the inspection ports, etc?
     
  4. JV's89

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    Thanks for the replies guys.

    The bell housing and drop gear were the only things I removed. There were no spacers between the gear and the bearing or the housing. The only spacer was in front of the roller bearing that is unique to the 328.

    I didn't do anything with the transmission.
     
  5. yelcab

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    So, if you remove the ring nut, you can spin the input shaft freely without any interference? It only locks up after you put the nut in and try to torque it?
     
  6. JV's89

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    That's correct.
     
  7. yelcab

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    Then the interference is not inside the box. It is among the three drop gears, bearings, and the center shaft from the clutch disc. Go back, disassemble the drop gears down to the shaft, make sure that both shafts spin freely, then install the three gears one at a time to see where the interference is. It is kind of hard to tell you what to do over the internet without pictures ...
     
  8. JV's89

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    Thanks again!

    I'll give this a try.
     
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    #9 Steve Magnusson, Nov 13, 2013
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  10. JV's89

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    glad you found it. That is always a good thing.
     
  13. Steve Magnusson

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    Been a looooong while since I've had a 308 bellhousing off (and not sure if 328 are the same), but my foggy recollection is that item 15 has to come off first, before the bellhousing can be removed (i.e., the hole in the bellhousing is larger in diameter than the input shaft but smaller than the OD of item 15) -- can you confirm/deny for a 328?
     
  14. yelcab

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    No Steve. They learned that lesson when they went to the QV and made the hole bigger than the stop ring so you can slide the bell housing off without having to remove the blasted ring.
     
  15. JV's89

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    The only other time I've done a clutch was in a 81 GTBi and I think it took less than an afternoon. I don't remember having difficulties with the retainer or spacer.

    When I pulled the bell housing on this car, the spacer slid off with it and fell inside. I never knew it was there until I took a look at the exploded view. Thanks for posting that Steve.

    I hope I didn't screw anything up by torquing the ring nut to 130ft lbs without the spacer in place. It seems to be ok so I'll wrap it up tomorrow and keep my fingers crossed.
     
  16. smg2

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    I've found it to be rather random with that, my '80 mondial will remove without fiddling around in the dark, and two of the recent QV's required blind removal of the snap ring, though the 328 did not. go figure, I've never understood the Ferrari assembly line, my best guess is that simply came down to what was in reach before the next coffee & cigarette break. :D
     

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