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  1. Bullfighter

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    #1 Bullfighter, Dec 14, 2005
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    Here's a shot of a 328 dash, with the original vinyl. To the left of the clock, you'll see how the material no longer adheres to the console 'frame'.

    Does vinyl shrink?

    Anyone had this happen and repaired it?

    It really looks awful - didn't think vinyl shrunk like leather did. I'm in the process of buying this car and trying to figure out how big a deal this is.
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  2. wolftalk

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    #2 wolftalk, Dec 14, 2005
    the vinyl can come unglued. Those trim pieces are made from metal and fiberglass with vinyl glued ovr them. The trick is to find a glue that sticks to both vinyl and fiberglass and/or metal. I've tried hot glue, goop, and some kind of contact cement, but not been happy with any of them.

    there's probably some adhesive that works great. suggestions?
     
  3. Dr Tommy Cosgrove

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    #3 Dr Tommy Cosgrove, Dec 14, 2005
    don't look now, but somebody stole your radio
     
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    #4 BigTex, Dec 14, 2005
    Try this glue...Tandy LeatherWeld.........dash material, it's vinyl I know, but this glue is good at soaking into the pourous material and STICKING!!!
     
  5. Bullfighter

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    #5 Bullfighter, Dec 14, 2005
    Radio by Tubi - located aft and under. ;)

    Thanks - sounds way easier than having this thing disassembled and re-covered in vinyl.
     
  6. hardtop

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    #6 hardtop, Dec 14, 2005
    Actually, I think many came from the factory that way. Too hard to get a good fit right there. My old 87 looked like that. My current 89 not as bad but other flaws can be found if you look hard enough. I think there is not enough material to fit snuggly in that corner.

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  7. Bullfighter

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    #7 Bullfighter, Dec 14, 2005
    You would've thought Italian quality control would catch that...
     
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    #8 Chiaro_Slag, Dec 14, 2005
    Does the vinyl look ok under the dash carpet?
     
  9. Bullfighter

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    #9 Bullfighter, Dec 14, 2005
    Yes, it's perfect.

    That's why I was curious as to whether vinyl actually shrinks - you'd think the top of the dash would get the real heat, while the front of the dash (like around the clock gauge cluster) wouldn't get much.
     
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    #10 hardtop, Dec 14, 2005
    I could tell you about the various flaws my 430 came with that would never pass a Honda inspector. Let's just say I have chalked it up to Italian character. If it didn't have flaws, I would have wondered if construction was outsourced to Toyota.

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    #11 jimpo1, Dec 14, 2005
    Jon, that entire panel comes loose pretty easily, it shouldn't be too hard to fix. My 328 has never had that problem.
     
  12. Bullfighter

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    #12 Bullfighter, Dec 14, 2005
    Yeah it looks completely separate from the rest of the dash. It doesn't look as hard to do as a complete dash re-covering.

    If it's just glue, that's easy. If the material has to be re-stitched, I can see where it would be beyond my meagre upholstery talents.

    Must be somewhat common, though. I checked today and there's a photo in Keith Bluemel's Original Ferrari V-8 book in the 308/328 section that shows the same problem, and I know he only photographed really nice cars for that book.
     
  13. Dr Tommy Cosgrove

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    #13 Dr Tommy Cosgrove, Dec 14, 2005

    I have the same radio!
     
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    #14 mk e, Dec 14, 2005
    Vinyl definately shrinks, faster in the sun, but it shrinks either way. It also gets hard and brittle with time, again much faster in the sun...plastic hates UV, they add stabilizers, but the stabilizers get consumered with time and the plastic degrades.
     

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