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  1. furmano

    furmano Three Time F1 World Champ

    Jul 22, 2004
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    Could you tell me the build month and year? FYI, it's stamped on the builder plate on the driver side door jam.

    -F
     
  2. Rifledriver

    Rifledriver Three Time F1 World Champ

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    #27 Rifledriver, Feb 5, 2011
    Last edited: Feb 5, 2011
    86 & 87

    1986

    61013 R/C Beige
    61015 R/C Beige
    61041 Nov 85 R/C Stolen NY 1-87
    61141
    61177 Met Nero Beige
    61181 R/C Nero
    61239 Nov 85 R/C Beige
    61243 Nov 85
    61327 R/C Beige
    61347 Argento Beige
    61411 Dec 85 R/C Beige
    61587 Dec 85 Nero Beige
    61731 R/C Beige
    61759 R/C Beige
    61765 Stolen car VIN belongs to Mond 3.2 Current condition unknown
    61793 R/C Beige Sold new FAF
    61805 R/C Nero
    61813
    61973 R/C Nero
    62027 R/C Beige
    62165 R/C Beige
    62813 Argento Nero
    63100
    63449
    63701 Bianco Stolen NY 87 Salvage 91
    64145
    64291 R/C Beige
    65045 Nero Beige
    65339 R/C Crema
    65529 Nero Nero
    65645
    66241 July 86 R/C Nero

    1987
    66511 Sept 86 R/C Beige
    66711 Sept 86 Nero Nero
    66801 Sept 86
    67033 Sept 86 R/C Beige
    67251 Oct 86 Salvage title 4-92
    67255 Oct 86 R/C Beige
    67527 Oct 86 R/C Nero
    67775 Oct 86 R/C Nero Sold new Newport Imports
    68233 Nov 86 Nero Nero Sold new Symbolic
    68647 Dec 86
    68671 Dec 86 R/C Nero
    69027 Jan 87 R/C Nero
    69179 Jan 87 R/C Beige
    69459
    70147 Mar 87 Bianco Rosso
    70249 Mar 87
    70697 Mar 87
    70739 Mar 87 R/C Beige
    71125 Apr 87 Grigio Grigio Sold new Newport Imports
    71487
    71549 R/C Beige
    71721 May 87

    -door handle change-

    72029 May 87 R/C Beige
    72549 Jun 87
    72629 R/C Beige 1996, July, FML, Forza, 13,000 miles
    73339 Jul 87 R/C Beige
    73341 Jul 87
    73367 Jul 87
    73369 Jul 87 Giallo Biege Sold new Woodland Hills
    73953 R/C Beige
    73965 R/C Beige
    74051 Sep 87
    74273 Sep 87 R/C Crema
     
  3. IDV8GTB

    IDV8GTB Karting

    Nov 25, 2006
    84
    Idaho
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    Paul
    #28 IDV8GTB, Feb 5, 2011
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  4. Rifledriver

    Rifledriver Three Time F1 World Champ

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    All US

    I have about double the number of unconfirmed of which I believe about half are US cars.

    I have about 60% of all 328 vins and about 50% of all GTB vins. More of my info came from Europe than the US.

    I believe we will find that there are far more US GTB's than previously thought.

    Out of 1344 I believe about 300 are US.

    R/C is Rosso Corsa

    I do not use any but the Ferrari name for a color when I know what it is.
     
  5. Rifledriver

    Rifledriver Three Time F1 World Champ

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    What model year is shown on the emission label in the engine compartment? That is the real model year. Mant titles show wrong year.

    My records show that to be an 87 model.


    Good looking car. Not very many Black Black cars.
     
  6. IDV8GTB

    IDV8GTB Karting

    Nov 25, 2006
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    I see my car is already on the list as an 87, but It has been titled and registered as an 86. Someone may have made a mistake along the line...... Does it really matter?
     
  7. Rifledriver

    Rifledriver Three Time F1 World Champ

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    No. Lots of cars get titled for the wrong year. As I said, for a US car the model year is dictated by what was claimed by the manufacturer and that is shown on the emission label. It is also shown on the VIN but it is easier just to look at the label. If the 10th digit in the VIN is a G, it is an 86. If that digit is an H, it is an 87.
     
  8. IDV8GTB

    IDV8GTB Karting

    Nov 25, 2006
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    #33 IDV8GTB, Feb 5, 2011
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  9. Rifledriver

    Rifledriver Three Time F1 World Champ

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    Cars do get built out of order for reasons that we can only guess about. Your plate shows a G in the VIN so it is an 86. I just changed my records. Part of the reason I am posting the info, so we can sort that kind of thing out.
    I have 66317 as an H VIN being and 87 and 66295 with a G VIN being an 86, both built in July and yours, 66711 built in September being an 86 so it is obvious VIN numbers and production dates are not always a good indicator of model year.

    Thanks for the information.
     
  10. Rifledriver

    Rifledriver Three Time F1 World Champ

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    1986

    61013 R/C Beige
    61015 R/C Beige
    61041 Nov 85 R/C Stolen NY 1-87
    61141
    61177 Met Nero Beige
    61181 R/C Nero
    61239 Nov 85 R/C Beige
    61243 Nov 85
    61327 R/C Beige
    61347 Argento Beige
    61411 Dec 85 R/C Beige
    61587 Dec 85 Nero Beige
    61731 R/C Beige
    61759 R/C Beige
    61765 Stolen car VIN belongs to Mond 3.2 Current condition unknown
    61793 R/C Beige Sold new FAF
    61805 R/C Nero
    61813
    61973 R/C Nero
    62027 R/C Beige
    62165 R/C Beige
    62813 Argento Nero
    63100
    63449
    63701 Bianco Stolen NY 87 Salvage 91
    64145
    64291 R/C Beige
    65045 Nero Beige
    65339 R/C Crema
    65529 Nero Nero
    65645
    66241 July 86 R/C Nero
    66711 Sept 86 Nero Nero

    1987
    66511 Sept 86 R/C Beige
    66801 Sept 86
    67033 Sept 86 R/C Beige
    67251 Oct 86 Salvage title 4-92
    67255 Oct 86 R/C Beige
    67527 Oct 86 R/C Nero
    67775 Oct 86 R/C Nero Sold new Newport Imports
    68233 Nov 86 Nero Nero Sold new Symbolic
    68647 Dec 86
    68671 Dec 86 R/C Nero
    69027 Jan 87 R/C Nero
    69179 Jan 87 R/c Beige
    69459
    70147 Mar 87 Bianco Rosso
    70249 Mar 87
    70697 Mar 87
    70739 Mar 87 R/C Beige
    71125 Apr 87 Grigio Grigio Sold new Newport Imports
    71487
    71549 R/C Beige

    Inner door handle change

    71721 May 87
    72029 May 87 R/C Beige
    72549 Jun 87
    72629 R/T 1996, July, FML, Forza, 13,000 miles
    73339 Jul 87 R/C Beige
    73341 Jul 87
    73367 Jul 87
    73369 Jul 87 Giallo Biege Sold new Woodland Hills
    73953 R/C Beige
    73965 R/C Beige
    74051 Sep 87
    74273 Sep 87 R/C Crema

    1988
    74609 Giallo Beige
    74747 R/C Beige
    75063 R/C Beige
    75125 Nov 87 R/C Nero Sold New FCI
    75267 Nov 87 R/C
    75373 Nov 87 Bianco Biege
    75478 Nov 87
    75593 R/C Beige
    75808 R/C Beige
    75912 Jan 88 Agento Rosso

    Outer door handles change
    -emblem on mirrors-

    75962 Jan 88 R/C Nero
    76013 R/C Crema
    76110 R/C Nero
    76140 R/C Beige
    76235 R/C Beige
    76493 Blu Chiaro Crema
    76514 Argento Rosso Stolen and recovered 1-89
    76518 R/C Beige
    76585
    76617 Mar 88
    76632 Mar 88 R/C Beige
    76633 Mar 88 R/C Beige Sold new Hollywood Sports Cars
    76667 Mar 88 R/C Beige Sold new Newport Imports
    76717
    77068 Apr 88 Nero Nero
    77262 May 88 R/C Beige
    77338 May 88 R/C Beige
    77365 May 88
    77394 May 88 R/C Beige
    77691 R/C Beige
    77808 Jun 88 R/C Nero
    78112 Jul 88
    78166 Jul 88 R/C Nero
    78225 Jul 88 R/C Beige
    78555 R/C Beige
    78577 Sep 88 R/C
    78680 Sep 88 R/C Beige
    78702 Sep 88 R/C Beige
    78714 Sep 88 R/C Beige
     
  11. hardtop

    hardtop F1 World Champ

    Jan 31, 2002
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    I can add 61899 sold new in TX and given a salvage title in NY 4/14/93.

    With all due respect to Brian, I don't think anywhere near 300 were sold in the US. 150 is more like it. I've been watching for at least 12 years and rarely add any anymore.

    Dave

    PS: 63100 has to be wrong since no even #s were used then. I've seen the number listed in show results.

    Dave
     
  12. Rifledriver

    Rifledriver Three Time F1 World Champ

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    Probably transpired wrong.
     
  13. Rifledriver

    Rifledriver Three Time F1 World Champ

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    #38 Rifledriver, Feb 6, 2011
    Last edited: Feb 6, 2011
    We have more than 100 here and so far are only covering 3 of the 4 years. I have about double this many GTB vins that I do not have market indentifiers for and many of those there is circumstantial evidence that they are US cars. My total list still only accounts for half of the GTB's made. I would be surprised if I could account for 80% of US cars out of 50% of the VINs when my single biggest source of info was European based but it is possible.

    These works are never finished. There will never be an exact answer but the best that can be done is to make some educated guesses and extrapolations from what is known. I'll finish putting up the info I have and we'll get corrections and additional information here and then people can apply whatever meaning to it that they want.
     
  14. furmano

    furmano Three Time F1 World Champ

    Jul 22, 2004
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    I am finding several even number cars that I believed are confirmed numbers. For example, V.W. Porto's car which is 76518.

    Also, Ferrari of Denver sold 77262 new in 1988.

    -F
     
  15. Rifledriver

    Rifledriver Three Time F1 World Champ

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    #40 Rifledriver, Feb 6, 2011
    Last edited: Feb 6, 2011
    BTW. I just posted this in a format that was easy for me. You started this. If you want to change anything, help yourself. It won't bother me.


    Many even # after 75000 which was a Euro TR btw.
     
  16. furmano

    furmano Three Time F1 World Champ

    Jul 22, 2004
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    Thanks Brian. I will take your additions and incorporate them into my list and post an updated list in a few days. I have a few emails out to owners to get build date and original dealer.

    -F
     
  17. hardtop

    hardtop F1 World Champ

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    To further clarify, they used odd #s on road cars and even #s on race cars up to 74999. After that they used both for raod cars. The exception is the Dino series (206,246,308 GT4) which had its own series of even numbers.

    Dave
     
  18. hardtop

    hardtop F1 World Champ

    Jan 31, 2002
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    I have about 125 with complete VIN# so I know they are NA. Quite a few of yours are not on my list but they are ones I haven't spotted for sale either so I suspect they may not be US cars. It has often been quoted that about 40 89s were brought in, the reasoning being that each NA dealer had to take one. I asked Steve Ahlgrim about this since he was a dealer at the time and he thought it was plausible. I also know some were exported and that may be why I'm stuck at 32-33 89s.

    Dave
     
  19. red3555gtb

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    #44 red3555gtb, Feb 6, 2011
    Last edited: Feb 6, 2011
    Just asking,what is the purpose of this registry for the 328gtb if you are excluding the euro version?If you are going to do this you should include the euro designation with the vin # and ext/int colour.I bet since 1986 a few of them have crossed the pond to the US/Canada.If a registry is going to be established do it to include all 328gtb models since total production is only about 1344 .
     
  20. furmano

    furmano Three Time F1 World Champ

    Jul 22, 2004
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    #45 furmano, Feb 6, 2011
    Last edited: Feb 6, 2011
    The purpose of this registry is to locate and track all US 328 GTB.

    By keeping the list to US GTB, that goal becomes possible. Adding non US models to the list makes that goal rather difficult.

    Of course anyone else is free and welcome to create a separate Euro or even worldwide or the very exclusive non-US imported into North America 328 GTB registry.

    -F
     
  21. GrayTA

    GrayTA F1 World Champ
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    Jun 25, 2006
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    I love the idea of doing this - great job guys!!!!





    PDG
     
  22. st@ven

    st@ven F1 Rookie

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    +1

    Just one question. How is the register kept up to date? Do you included that too?
    What i mean is for instance, when a car is totalled. do You keep track? How do you know the cars on the list are actually still around?

    We do discuss on occasion the question of how many there are left. It would be nice if the register could answer that too. ( just thinking out loud)
     
  23. furmano

    furmano Three Time F1 World Champ

    Jul 22, 2004
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    #48 furmano, Feb 7, 2011
    Last edited: Feb 7, 2011
    Steven,

    Thanks for bringing that up. The reason I have posted the registry here is to allow everyone to contribute, as Rifledriver has done. Anyone is welcome to add notes or updates, especially if a car is known to be destroyed or simply salvaged. This is kind of a Wiki registry so it does not rely on one editor, which was the problem with the original 328 GTB registry.

    That said, at this point I am focusing more on the early days of each car's life rather than the current state. I don't care what a car's current mileage is. I am trying to build a history for every car I can and I'm starting at the beginning, even though the more recent information is easier to locate.

    I just ask that non-US cars are not added.

    So feel free to add information. I may edit it to fit the format and may even dispute some information, as Dave has regarding the validity of some of the serial numbers. But I welcome all comers.

    -F
     
  24. furmano

    furmano Three Time F1 World Champ

    Jul 22, 2004
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    #49 furmano, Feb 7, 2011
    Last edited: Feb 7, 2011
    Here is my first update. I have added the cars from Rifledriver with the hope that over time these cars can be located. I have several emails and pm's out to owners asking for build dates and original dealer.

    If you have any information that you can add please let me know.

    -F

    1986
    61013 RC/Beige
    61015 RC/Beige Nov 85 Foreign Cars Italia
    61041 Nov 85
    61141
    61177 Nero Met/Beige Shelton textured spoiler
    61181 RC/Nero
    61239 RC/Beige Nov 85
    61243 Nov 85
    61327 RC/Beige Dec 85 LFSC leather rear shelf, brown dash
    61347 Arg/Beige
    61411 RC/Beige Dec 85
    61587 Nero/Beige Dec 85
    61731 RC/Beige
    61759 RC/Beige
    61793 RC/Beige FAF
    61805 RC/Nero
    61813
    61899 salvage
    61973 RC/Nero
    62027 RC/Beige Jan 86 Symbolic
    62165 RC/Beige
    62813 Arg/Nero
    63449
    63701 Bianco salvage
    64145
    64291 RC/Beige Classic Ferrari, Richardson Texas
    65045 Nero/Beige
    65339 RC/Crema
    65529 Nero/Nero
    65645
    66241 RC/Nero Jul 86
    66511 RC/Beige Sep 86
    66711 Nero/Nero Sep 86

    1987
    66801 Sep 86
    67033 RC/Beige Sep 86 Wide World of Cars
    67251 Oct 86 salvage
    67255 RC/Beige Oct 86 LFSC
    67527 RC/Nero Oct 86
    67775 RC/Nero Oct 86 Newport Imports
    68233 Nero/Nero Nov 86 Symbolic
    68647 Dec 86
    68671 RC/Nero Dec 86
    69027 RC/Nero Jan 87
    69179 RC/Beige Jan 87
    69459
    70147 Bianco/R
    70249 Mar 87
    70697 Mar 87
    70739 RC/Beige Mar 87
    71125 Grigio/Grigio Apr 87 Newport Imports
    71487
    71549 RC/Beige

    -inner door handle change-

    71721 May 87
    72029 RC/Beige May 87
    72549 Jun 87
    72629 RC/Beige
    73339 RC/Beige Jul 87
    73341 Jul 87
    73367 Jul 87
    73369 Giallo/Beige Jul 87 Woodland Hills Ferrari
    73953 RC/Beige
    73965 RC/Beige
    74051 Sep 87
    74273 RC/Crema Sep 87

    1988
    74609 Giallo/Beige
    74747 RC/Beige
    75063 RC/Beige Oct 87 Foreign Cars Italia
    75125 RC/Nero Nov 87 Foreign Cars Italia
    75267 RC Nov 87
    75373 Bianco/Beige Nov 87
    75478 Nov 87
    75593 RC/Beige Ron Tonkin
    75808 RC/Beige
    75912 Arg/R Jan 88

    -outer door handle change-
    -emblem on mirrors-

    75962 RC/Nero Jan 88
    76013 RC/Crema
    76110 RC/Nero
    76140 RC/Beige
    76235 RC/Beige Ferrari of Dallas shields
    76493 Blu Chia/Crema
    76514 Arg/R Feb 88 LFSC
    76518 RC/Beige LFSC
    76585
    76617 Mar 88

    1988.5
    -convex wheels-76626

    76632 RC/Beige Mar 88
    76633 RC/Beige Hollywood Sports Cars
    76667 RC/Beige Newport Imports
    76717
    77068 Nero/Nero Apr 88
    77262 RC/Beige May 88 Ferrari of Denver
    77338 RC/Beige May 88
    77365 May 88
    77394 RC/Beige May 88
    77691 RC/Beige
    77808 RC/Nero Jun 88
    78112 Jul 88
    78166 RC/Beige Jul 88
    78225 RC/Beige Jul 88
    78555 RC/Beige Sep 88 Ferrari of Washington

    -shocks change-

    78577 RC Sep 88
    78680 RC/Beige Sep 88
    78702 RC/Beige Sep 88
    78714 RC/Beige Sep 88

    1989
    78881 RC/Beige Oct 88 Harris Imports
    78894 RC/Beige Oct 88 spoiler delete
    79054 RC/Beige
    79076 RC/Beige
    79124 RC/Beige
    79349 RC/Beige
    79392 RC/Beige
    79422 RC/Nero
    79659 RC/Beige
    79663 RC/Beige Ron Tonkin
    79710 RC/Beige
    79730 RC/Beige Dec 88 Wide World of Cars
    80029 RC/Beige
    80050 RC/Beige
    80054 RC/Beige
    80281 Nero/Nero
    80364 RC/Tobacco
    80377 RC/Beige
    80667 RC/Beige
    80882 RC/Nero
    81053 RC/Beige
    81066 RC/Nero salvage
    81203 Arg/Nero
    81597 RC/Beige
    81750 RC/Nero
    82526 RC/Beige
    82566 RC/Beige
    82906 Verde Scuro/Beige
    likely the last 328 GTB imported to the US
     
  25. red3555gtb

    red3555gtb Formula 3
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    76626 is a euro spec.
     

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