328 WP Hose Help

Further to my attemp to replace the WP I am absolutely stymied by attaching the hoses to the housing at the pipe on the far end. Based on someone elses suggestion that the hoses should be replaced I took them out and bout new one. There must be a mechanics trick to getting them on in such a tight space. I have a small wrencg that fits on the clam but as soon as I get it on the clamp and put the slightest pressure on it the clamp turns because it does not yet have a grip on the hose. And since the clamp must be very loose to get it on the hose once the hose is on the pipe I don't see how to solve the clamp rotation problem. Have spent hours on this which I am sure a mecahnic does not do. Any suggestions?

 

Darrols. There are two hoses each about 6-7 inches long that run from an aluminum pipe on the drivers side of the engine underneath the plenum and into the WP housing. At each end they are attached by a circle clamp. To replace the WP I removed the two hoses from the WP and the pipe on the drivers side. I cut new hoses and although I can fit them over the drivers side pipe and can get the clam on the hose when I put a wrench on the nut on the clamp the clamp just rotates on the hose and frequently come of hte hose and onto the pipe. There must be some trick to keeping the clamp stable until it is tightened enough so that it does not rotate.
Any thoughts?

 

Darolls; When you access the hose clamp do you try to get at it from above near the plenum or do you go at it parallel to the hose. That is through the space where the WP is?

 

Darolls. Another question. When replacing the hoses do you first clamp the hoses to the pipe and then wiggle the housing on and then clamp the hose to the housing which is what I am trying to do. Or do you first slide the hose over the pipe and push it back and then mount the housing and then slide the hose to the housing and once that is done tighten all hoses?

 

Seems like I have worn out my welcome on this thread or the kind of practical advice that I need is outside the competence or experience of any members. Maybe its better if I figure it out on my own anyhow.

 

Thanks Darolls. My frustration is getting to me. I finally got the WP housing onto the hoses and that part was easier than I thought. I think that the only piece of advice that I need now is what kind of lubrican/gasket sealer-if any-I should put on the housing o-ring and the WP/housing gasket. Hope to have this completed this weekend so that I can do with the car what I bought it for-drive it and show it off!!

 

Darolls et al. Thanks for the help thus far. I finally got the hoses attached to the pipes away from the housing but then went to put the housing on and found that the upper hose was a tad to long and bumped up against the housing after it went over housing pipe. Had to take the housing off and undo the clamp to push the upper hose back so that the housing could be mounted flush against the engine. Now I am back to square one with getting the clamp back on the pipe to the upper hose. Even at Ferrari labor rates I find it hard to believe that a mechanic can make money doing water pumps. There must be some mechanics secrets to doing this.

Would appreciate it if someone knowledgeable who has done this so that I could call them and discuss the matter.

 

Thanks again Darolls. Yes I am working from the right wheel going into the hose connection through the space opened up with the WP and housing taken out. The problem is twofold.

1. Getting the circle clamps tightened up on the pipes that the two hoses attach to. The clamp must be precisely aligned so that a socket can fit over the nut on the clamp to tighten it. Then however the pressure of the socket/ratchet driver on the clamp pushes it around on the hose so that the socket comes off.

2. After msch effort I got the clamps tightened down but then when I went to put the housing on the upper hose was projecting to far towards the housing and prvented it from fitting flush against the engine. Had to undo the hose from the pipe and push it back and now have the clamp tightening problem all over again.

If someone could just tell me how they get the circle clamps on the hoses that go into the pipes waway from the housing I would be grateful

Any thoughts?