Some days ago i made a shooting of a friends Felber Ferrari Chassis 09107 for an article in the next Ferrari Club Austria Yearbook. another great example to discuss the replica, rebody theme. i am not sure what to think about the car but it was real fun to drive. very pure, loud and exciting. Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
the pics loose much of their brilliance and sharpness when resized, but you can get an idea. two more: Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
Thanks for the pictures. The last one is my favorite. What a hoot that car must be. Someone did a modern rod with a 575 engine IIRC and ostrich skin seats. Now I'm getting ideas about what to do with that 599 engine on Ebay. I difinitely think one could scare oneself silly. Many smiles no doubt.
Undoubtedly that car is guaranteeing lots of smiles per hour. But I have to say there was an opportunity here to create something with better flowing lines. IMHO. Onno
Steve Moal built Torpedo. Was at Amelia Island last year along with a number of his other creations. They were all awesome! http://www.moal.com/04_gallery/00gal-torpedo/index.php Al
I wonder how many of Ferber's Ferrari rebodies have been rebodied (or is that re-rebodied?) back to original? http://ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=124334&highlight=9107 Al
from todays point of view its a sacrilege to rebody a 330 GTC. In the days the donor cars have been 6 years old and not very much sought after. as far as i know it were damaged cars too. i dont think it makes sense to re-rebody them today. these cars have made their own history in the last decades and putting a remade GTC body on the chassis does not make them original again.
Hi Michael, AFAIK this car was offered at the Techno Classica Essen in 2010 and caused the dealer who was offering it as a "Ferrari" some legal headaches caused by Ferrari. Do you know how these legal problems were solved in the end (if so) ? Regards Bjoern
Hi Björn i dont know of legal problems. my friend got the car from a dealer, not at the Techno Classica. The car was well known in the scene and long time owned by Heidi Hetzer from Berlin.
Just a question but what is this thread doing in this section of Ferrarichat???? Please move to the correct place tongascrew
If you are referring to 09107; what is the problem? It was a Ferrari; it still is a Ferrari (albeit with a custom body; however, done in-period....). It is not a "recreation/replica/copy/clone" of anything in particular (166??? NOT), so IMHO, as 'aesthetically challenged" as it may be, it is in the correct forum. (the Moal Torpedo, otoh, is simply a 'custom car', for another thread). Others?
The point being made here is that the Felber cars are "non-period" rebodies. These cars were originally bodied by Pininfarina in the mid-to-late 1960s and Felber didn't begin rebodying them until a decade later. Not long ago, the decision was made to place discussion on non-period rebodied Ferraris in this subforum along with Ferrari-based "recreations." I have no idea what the cut-off is for being "period" vs "non-period." By the way, there is a rebodied Ferrari in my avatar. Is it okay for me to post here?
1. Sorry, yes, you'll have to move your avatar to the other thread. Or at least have the grace to remove the Ferrari emblems! 2. Can we have some argument as to the precise dating between "in-period" and not? 3 years? 5 years? 10 years? 20 years? 1 month? 3. Even if the body is determined (by this august group) to be non-period, is it not still a Ferrari; with its original?GTC? chassis number, and (assumed to be) correct motor?
I hope you're not relying on this to be one of the criteria because, according to my notes, this car is built on chassis #9107 but is powered by motor #9879.
Get that effing "thing" outta this thread! and into purgatory where it belongs!!! And all along I was ready to give it the benefit of the doubt.....UGLY as it is....learned my lesson there!
These cars, while fugly, are very much period rebodies. A car that is around 10 years old has no historic value and thus perfectly acceptable for rebodying. 30+ is seriously sad ...[EDIT:]on second thoughts in a GTC's case that puts us in the terrible 80's, thus a waste like every other rebody/replica made in the 80s[/EDIT] Pete
Why is this thread here and not where it should in the replica/reproduction section. Some may think it doesn't even belong there. Please remove this ASAP. thanks tongascrew
Go to the first post in this thread, look in the upper right corner of the post, and you will see a little triangle containing an "!" Click on the triangle and report the post. Then a moderator who moves threads to the rebody forum will do just that. You can do the same for the other Felber thread if you would like to see it moved as well. Image Unavailable, Please Login
I think that there may be merit to a period rebody. I think it is possible that back in the day Ferrari did rebodies, and in some cases others did as well. There are various factors and or degrees of acceptance of this, with perhaps the most accepted being the crashed car or race car. I like this current forum setup with a period rebody section. It seems to be keeping the peace. I would say "period" should be about three years. I would have an additional category for non period and moderns to keep out cars like my 550SS which while "in period" doesn't belong in vintage. This Felber does make one think of where it belongs. No I'm not suggesting the trash heap. Get off it !
