330 GT 2+2 Headlights 2 vs 4

Is there a big difference between the two? Price, resell, availabilty??? on the 196X 330 GT 2+2 Headlights 2 vs 4

 

Seems the 4 headlight has always been the bastard step child of the 330 world. Int'l press vilified it from the start and the stigma remains. Personally, in some colors, I like it and would not hesitate to buy a good car. I have been seeing the 4 headlight asking some pretty similar prices lately as double h.l models so the gap seems to be shrinking.

 

I'm happy with my Series I and the 4 headlights; my biggest design complaint is the floor-mounted pedals. Night vision ability is awesome with the two extra headlights!

I think FML and Cavallino indexes value both 330 2+2 series equally, and my insurance co. didn't hesitate to a substantial upward adjustment in agreed value coverage recently.

IMO, both the Series I and II cars are great, each with its own character. It just so happened that a good Series I came along when I was ready to buy.

 

Sorry, but I just don't trust that overdrive--had one go south on me driving from Arizona to SoCal once. The series 1 1/2 and series 2 had numerous other mechanical improvements. So, cosmetics aside, I much prefer the later ones, especially with A/C and P/S.

 

I agree with everyone who's posted so far.

The visual difference is purely subjective, and is a personal preference.
THe power steering is remarkably good, and helpful on this biggish Ferrari.
The 5-speed transmission is better (or at least simpler) than the overdrive.
Air conditioning is only available on later models, and is very nice, depending on where you live.
I definitely prefer pendulum pedals, like most modern cars have, as opposed to the floor-mounted pedals of earlier cars.

Availability is pretty scarce. Kerry Chesbro has an excellent website, with available cars. Few are actually available. As with all Ferraris, buy the best you can afford, as it will be cheaper than fixing one with problems. Also be sure to get a pre-purchase inspection.

The best example of a 330 GT may be serial number 9453, which unfortunately is not for sale.

 

I agree on the O/D, even though mine has given no problems so far. I try to use it...or lose it...and engage it even on short drives, as well as keeping fluid topped off.

 

I prefer the styling of the S1 but the mechanicals of the early S2. Iterm is my favorite.

I was told that later series 2 cars had a 2 mount motor vs. a 4 mount motor on the earlier cars. Is this true?

Regards,

Art S.

 

He's somethin' else, isn't he?
http://www.parrotbyte.com/kbc/ferrari/

 

This is true, my car has 4 mounts.

 

I think the best available is 9017, Platinum winner 2003, with full restoration, including Authorized Ferrari dealer engine rebuild. Of course, I am a wee bit biased. Mine isn't for sale, either. They are more rare than Daytonas!

PS. Later models are much better in terms of gearbox & the PS as well as a few other changes.

Kerry Chesbro is teh King of knowledge on 330's

...just my 2 cents.....Carlo

 

One defining characteristic of the 330 crowd is the number of guys for whom this is a "Viking Funeral Car" (they are not parting with it 'till they die), one owner I know very well bought a really nice RH drive Series II in the late 70s for about the price of the tool kit today. Later he turned down several Japanese offers for $250,000 in the madness of the 80s, (that was a lot of money then) still has it, still won't sell it. When I asked him if he regrets for not taking the 250,000 and later buying back in, said hell no this is my car (he has 15 others). Most of the Tom Yang gang are of similar minds, they really want to keep their cars; the good new is, if you get one there is a great community for support led by Kerry and Tom, no advice or part can not be found, the bad news is finding a great car takes a long, long time. Why? Suppose you want a Series II. Begin with 474 total produced, then subtract the no longer with us (this a number in dispute) say 125, now you are at 350, that's world wide, then subtract those cars in private collections absolutely not for sale as long as the owners are alive (here in DC there are at least 5 in that category that I know of) let's say that is 150 cars around the world, that means in a normal 5 year search you are likely to see only the cars for sale in that 200 for sale, many of which are rats. So I counsel patience. Good hunting, they are worth all the time it takes to get one! Michael Bayer #9727 & #14947

 

Carlo,

Have you ever driven a series 1? Best, Yale

 

Well put. For such a rare car they are actually very inexpensive. If you are looking for one it is worhtwhile simply to send an email to Kerry at the website, as it is likely he knows of practically all that are for sale.

There was a fairly nice one that needed a little work available in teh FCA newsletter. It has a recent engine rebuild by Jens Paulsen....certainly a great start.

GOOD LUCK!

Carlo

 

I guess for many, including myself, these cars were the reasonably priced entry point into Vintage 12 ownwership , and the current reality is that it would take $100K+ in addition to a top-end 330 2+2 to get a foothold in the next Vintage level: 330 GTC, Daytona, 250 PF coupe...the lowest-end 2 seaters.

Personally speaking, parting with 100 grand and a perfectly good 330 to do this is out of the question...and even if I could afford to do it, the motivation isn't high enough...I'm happy with my car, it's reliable and provides all the Ferrari thrills, gets plenty of attention and admiration, and I can take it out on the road without the intrinsic worry of riding around in what amounts to a major financial holding...but the way prices have been going up, this freedom may become a thing of the past.

Another reality is the unknown...say I wanted a Series II with A/C, 5-speed, power, and so on, and assuming I could get a decent price for my car...where to start? It's a jungle out there with nothing in it because everyone with a good car is hanging on, and anything readily available would likely need $30K worth of work.

Regarding the overdrive: The operation of it doesn't bother me at all. What I really don't like are the floor-mounted pedals, even though they are also part of the same "period charm" as the O/D. The O/D works fine now, I'm not worried about it; if it breaks, I'll get it fixed.

 

Is the car drivable when this happens? Hopefully you were just limited to 4th gear. Also, I am assuming its better to use it regularly to keep it in working order?

 

Thanks for the plug. The 330 GT Registry is at:
www.parrotbyte.com/330GTRegistry
There is a 'for sale' page where cars that are available (as far as I know) are listed. Please read the caveats at the top of the page.

Regards, Kerry

 

Could anyone tell me if 330 ownership is more expensive than the 348 is?

I have a 330 serie II at sight and I am thinking in selling my 348 to purchase the 330, but I don`t know if maintenance will be excesive as being a vintage cars, I mean, carboretors, sumps and so.

Your feedback will be great

Thanks in advance

 

Sell the 348 asap and get a classic V-12. You will not regret it.
And you'll have even more room in the 330 than in a 348. Good luck.
Marcel Massini

 

Marcel,

I'm not sure that I necessarily agree, at least from a fun/practicality standpoint. The 330 is a relatively straightforward car to maintain once it is in good condition. If it is unrestored, it is a 40 year old, hand built car that will require significant costly maintenance - there is an ongoing discussion on this topic on tomyang.net where Yale describes the costs accociated with keeping his car on the road.

Also, the restoration of a 330 is the same as any other V-12 so it still doesn't pay to restore one as an investment.


Julio,

The old cars are wonderful but a very different experience than the newer ones. My wifes '97 BMW M3 outperforms my 330 but I much prefer the experience of driving the 330.



Regards,

Art S.

 

I prefer the 330, but you should drive one before you even think of buying an older Ferrari. They are totally different cars.

 

By the way, a 330 2+2 just sold using 'buy it now' on ebay for $94,000!!!

 

No *****...won't believe it until it shows up on the 330 Registry as sold...Seller blanked out the last two #'s of the s/n but it shouldn't be hard to find...#78XX. Buyer looks reputable.

Is this the difference between 2 and 4 headlights, based on the previous unsold Series I listing? Personally, I don't think so...the Series I car had rough edges and several very obvious off items...things a buyer who's done their homework would instantly spot, while the sold S II car is an obvious cream puff, just from the listing pictures.

 

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Ferrari-Ferrari-330-GT-1965-FERRARI-330-GT_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ6212QQitemZ4638076308QQrdZ1

Is this a new high? Pictures look nice, but the leather could do with a redye. Curiously, it has an interim interior - center switches, console, two vents.

Also, apparently 2007ac just sold a $77,600 42ft boat out of Sausalito, CA. Perhaps the car is coming to Norcal? All just guesses on my part. MotoB, has this been delivered to Pat's yet for a once over?

Cheers, JB

 

John,

I assume this one is SN of 7815. Mine is 7919 and still has the interim interior.

Regards,

Art S.

 

And he has a 80 foot yacht that he's looking to trade for an Enzo + cash...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Ferrari-San-Lorenzo-80-San-Lorenzo-80Motor-Yacht-trade-for-Enzo-F50-plus-cash_W0QQitemZ4637639452QQcategoryZ6212QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

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