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333SP or F50GT

Discussion in 'Ferrari Discussion (not model specific)' started by Benjroth, May 8, 2008.

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  1. andric

    andric Formula Junior

    Feb 26, 2008
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    But I dont think ferrari was going to submit the F50 for comp. The roadgoing cars have to be exact to the racecars but street legal, or am I just totaly wrong with my thinking.
     
  2. Dr_ferrari

    Dr_ferrari Formula 3
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    THE F-50 WAS BUILT SO THE 333SP COULD BE RACED. THE MINIMUM WAS 50 TO COUNT AS A PRODUCTION CAR. THE 333SP IS THE RACE VERSION OF THE F-50.

    REGARDS, JIM
     
  3. Benjroth

    Benjroth Karting

    Jul 24, 2007
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    Either way of looking at this, I still think open cockpit is the way to go... Plus the 333sp is much lighter.:)










    BAR
     
  4. Dr_ferrari

    Dr_ferrari Formula 3
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  5. Benjroth

    Benjroth Karting

    Jul 24, 2007
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    If I am correct, the SP's are the beholder of the Fiorano lap record at around 1'11". Are they the fastest non open-wheeled cars around Fiorano??
     
  6. andric

    andric Formula Junior

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    The GT1 never had a shot at the track so we don' know.
     
  7. Auraraptor

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  8. Benjroth

    Benjroth Karting

    Jul 24, 2007
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    Really?? I saw on ultimate-car-page.com I beleive that it said specifically that it clocked faster lap times on Fiorano than the SP. The reason I ask in the first place is that they never said any such lap times. I may be completely wrong anyway....:p

    Fifth paragraph in....

    http://***************.com/car/592/Ferrari-F50-GT.html
     
  9. Kevin2772

    Kevin2772 Formula Junior

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    I'm pretty sure it was 25 cars and not 50. Maybe I am wrong. I know McLaren built at least 50 but I would be willing to bet my left arm that there arent 50 Porsche GT1's out there. According to wikipedia there are only 25 total CLK-GTR mercedes

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes_CLK-GTR


    Either way a sick car. I would vote for the F50GT mainly for how rare it is...
     
  10. dkabab

    dkabab Formula Junior

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    For me the F50gt1 is the ultimate car. while the 333sp is awesome, it just doesnt do much for me other than its another lemans style prototype.
    dont get me wrong, its an amazing machine, but the F50 is just that bit more, firstly its looks are obviously based on a production car that people can associate with, and the modifications done to the body are just so purposeful. to me its always been a mysterious car, everyones seen pictures of one, but 99.9% of the world wouldnt have seen one, where as the 333sp is somewhat shown off more, race meetings, car shows, displays...
     
  11. amenasce

    amenasce Three Time F1 World Champ
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    The 333 SP was racing before the F50 was introduced.
     
  12. Dr_ferrari

    Dr_ferrari Formula 3
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    Yes, but the f50 was in production when the 333sp was introduced.

    Regards, Jim
     
  13. Benjroth

    Benjroth Karting

    Jul 24, 2007
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    I agree. But somehow, I can't go with the F50 gt yet because, lets be honest, we don't know much about the car. In my case, I need that information to be satisfied....





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  14. Dr_ferrari

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    IMSA regulations specified that the engine used could not displace over four litres and had to be derived from a road car. The V12 used was similar in design to Ferrari's contemporary Formula 1 engines, but it was homologated because it would power the upcoming Ferrari F50 road car. For the F50 the 3.5 litre F1 engine was increased in size to 4.7 litre and then reduced again for the 333 SP. All technical aspects, like the 5 valves per cylinder setup, were retained for both the F50 and 333 SP engine. Like many of its legendary predecessors the 333 SP was named after its engine's unitary displacement of 333 cc.


    Best regards, Jim
     
  15. Benjroth

    Benjroth Karting

    Jul 24, 2007
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    Is it really 333cc and not ci??
     
  16. Dr_ferrari

    Dr_ferrari Formula 3
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    3.33CC PER CYLINDER. SIMILAR TO THE 456GT WITH 4.56CC PER CYLINDER.

    REGARDS, JIM
     
  17. Dr_ferrari

    Dr_ferrari Formula 3
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    each cylinder displaces 333 cc on the 333sp. sorry, had a decimal point in there....

    regards, jim
     
  18. Benjroth

    Benjroth Karting

    Jul 24, 2007
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    Okay, this makes more sense. Anyway, what do you know concerning the F50, about the location (museums, garages, etc.), value (s/n 002-003) and spec. (s/n 001) currently?
     
  19. menoy

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    You wrote there were NO road versions of the Nissan, Toyota etc. My post was a reply to that.



    You don't say...
     
  20. andric

    andric Formula Junior

    Feb 26, 2008
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    #1 in america to Art Z
    #2 in japan
    #3 was in austalia now in japan
     
  21. Benjroth

    Benjroth Karting

    Jul 24, 2007
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    Thanks. HP numbers??
     
  22. J. Salmon

    J. Salmon F1 Rookie
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    I'll take a regular F50, so I can take it to the coffee shop too :)
     
  23. Benjroth

    Benjroth Karting

    Jul 24, 2007
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    You thought I meant the race car... no, the road version.:/:/
     
  24. ernie

    ernie Two Time F1 World Champ
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    750hp if my memory serves me correct.
     

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