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348/355 engine position

Discussion in '348/355' started by bigdreamer, Dec 21, 2010.

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  1. bigdreamer

    bigdreamer Karting

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    Just curious...why are these engines positioned that the transmission is in the back and the the timing belts are in the front (where they can't be reached)?
     
  2. 2NA

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    #2 2NA, Dec 21, 2010
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    It's known as "mid-engine", done for improved weight distribution.

    Ease of maintenance has never been a high priority for Ferrari.
     
  3. bigdreamer

    bigdreamer Karting

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    I understand its a mid-engined but is there any advantage as to why the clutch is in the back and the belts in the front? Shouldn't it be the other way around?
     
  4. m5guy

    m5guy Formula 3

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    #4 m5guy, Dec 21, 2010
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    Think about how the Lamborghini Countach powertrain is configured where the transmission faces the front. See what a pain in the butt it is to transfer the power back to the rear wheels? That car requires a driveshaft running backwards, through the sump I recall, to the transaxle.

    Pointing the motor forward and the transaxle & clutch towards the rear allows the majority of the weight (the engine) to be positioned ahead of the rear wheels, thus centralizing the mass and improving the handling of the car. Plus, it simplifies the powertrain.
     
  5. S-T48

    S-T48 Formula Junior
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    Awesome response. Very informative.
     
  6. Mitch Alsup

    Mitch Alsup F1 Veteran

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    The engine is as close to the axle shafts as possible
    The gears on the transmission shafts are as low and far forward as possible
    This left the clutch to reside "out back"
    The engine and transmission are joined together as a stiff menber
    Thus, the timing arrangements had to be up at the front.

    If the timing belts were at the rear of the engine:: the engine+tranny would not be as stiff; and you would have to disconnect/remove the transmission from both the engine and from the axles in order to get at the belts.

    With the clutch "out back" Ferrari figured out that they could use the clutch as a mass damper if the transfer shaft were machined to just the right torsion.

    BTW the reason the transmission gears are transverse is that this both centralizes the mass and lowers the CoG at the same time.
     

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