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348 - 355 Suspension......What Changed?

Discussion in '348/355' started by gandalfthegray., Jan 10, 2008.

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  1. KoreanStallion

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    Sorry. Weak bronze valve guides. On the 355 roof. Yes. it can be refurbished/repaired but at what cost? Also yes, the 355 automatic roof can be converted to a manual roof but that gets me back to Less is More as the 348 spider has a manual roof. I'm just saying with 355 prices having rallied substantially and with many considering the 355 to be the best sports car Ferrari ever made, 348 prices will also pop. 308/328 tubular framed and lesser horse powered cars are also priced much higher than the 348. I'm just saying the 348 is mispriced on a relative as well as absolute basis and presents the best value of any sports car? I'm a car collector and am actively looking for any better value than the Ferrari 348. Please feel free to enlighten me as I'm looking for any potential price appreciation at a reasonable price and cannot find it otherwise.
     
  2. willrace

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    ...or regress..... back to the beginning of 2008.

    Where's Dr S with a Necromancer Card?
     
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    buy stocks not cars. What car guy really cares about car value? Buy what excites you and drive it in good health.
     
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  4. Ferrarium

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    #54 Ferrarium, Dec 29, 2021
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    What they did was lower the upper rear suspension pickup points 2 to 3 mm and the lower as well and change the offset to 25 mm more. That's about it. Other changes after that with 355 specific like the suspension under trays and active coils which was already mentioned.

    Before the recession when the 348 came out people were lining up and waiting 9 to 12 months for a Ferrari and then flipping him for 50 grand more. When the recession hit a whole bunch of people got left holding the bag. Then of course they blamed the 348 for their loss. Once the recession was over when the spider came out people were gushing about the 348 spider. Magazines too.

    When I'm out driving around I have 993s Audi r8s lambos all kinds of things pull up next to me. Despite that the fact that those cars may be "better" whatever that means they're still not Ferraris. They tend to look at me more than I look at them. At the end of the day a Ferrari is still a Ferrari and a 348 styling really catches the eye.

    You can be driving down the road and a 458 or mcclaren can pass you and some people don't even notice because they all look kind of vanilla. But when people see a 348 they don't know what it is but they know it's something.

    At the end of the day when people say things I just laugh, I have it and I love it I could have bought a 355 or 360 but I bought the 348 and I don't regret it. The Ferrari I have is better than the Ferrari they don't have. There really is something to that era styling.

    I just tool around and look cool, I don't attempt to drive it like it's a vette, hammer down hard break between every stop light. Boy is the 248 fun to toss around corners at low speed. The newer cars are quite boring to drive it normal speeds. 348 is a blast to drive a normal speeds. As far as how it handles up at the top of the performance envelope I have no clue that's not why I have it. If that's the goal you're better off getting a vette.

    And by the way most of those articles that you see are really just clickba articles people cutting and pasting things from other articles to create clickbait. It's not actual informed information.

    Ever seen that Evo magazine article wich it called it the best steering car they ever drove when they were doing a Ferrari comparison?

    In the end you drive what you want to drive for you you don't drive something for other people. If that's the case you may as well just save up and buy a Bugatti because everything up will always look down.

    I've read tons of posts out here where people sold at 348s and bought 360s etc. Many of them come back and say the same thing they miss the driving experience and feel of the 348.


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    You just made my IGNORE list.
     
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    For clarity I'm addressing @KoreanStallion
     
  7. Ferrarium

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    Ohh that was clear. [emoji3]
    His posts remind me of click bait articles of regurgitated facts mixed up and presented as some insightful knowledge.

    And no.... Rear tail panels can NOT be swapped lol. Yet another thing you never tried and yet seem to be an expert.



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  8. KoreanStallion

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    Hunting for posts to poke, prod and provoke? Manufacturing drama? Attention seeing behavior much for Ferrarichat.com Trophy points?
    What I don't hear is anyone suggesting what is a better value in sports cars than a Ferrari 348 at current prices.
    What I don't hear is anyone refuting my "thesis" that prices of the 348 will rally along with (and I personally believe beyond) what 308s/328s/355s prices have done?
    What I don't hear is anyone suggesting a better collector car on a relative basis.
    What I don't hear is anyone suggesting a better collector car on an absolute basis.
    Anyone? Ferrarium? Anyone? JohnK? That's what i thought....
    Go back to your game of "who's is bigger." You two make a nice sewing circle.
    The truly confident have enough self regard not to roll in the mud with a pig that enjoys getting dirty.
    Ferrarium and JohnK please ignore my posts. I definitely don't bother to take the time to read yours.
    Unless you're just trying to be a buzz kill/energy vampire to the Ferrari enthusiast community?
    To me, we can all respectfully agree to disagree - everyone is entitled to their own opinions and interpretations. Please, move on.
     
  9. Ferrarium

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    The 348 is great we agree, I think over time it may eclipse the 355. Not a popular position. All that said....

    What the heck does does any of what you posted have to do with you saying you can swap the rear tail light panel when you clearly can't? I'll give you a clue it does not actually fit. Or any other flat wrong bits of knowledge you constantly extoll.

    You can't just post making stuff up and when people call you out on it you get all personal about it. Stop making stuff up, how about that? Out here we actually know where we're talking about with these cars, you're aware of that right?

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  10. Ferrarium

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    You remind me of a comedian who's on stage bombing and everyone's embarrassed for him but the comedian is unaware he's bombing.

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  11. Qavion

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    @KoreanStallion.

    Since you only have 31 posts, we don't have much on which to judge your expertise/character. However, if you've managed to upset more than a couple of very knowlegeable members in a relatively short period of time, this doesn't bode well.

    You revived a thread on suspension started in 2008 by focusing on bang for buck, brass valves and convertible roofs. Why?
     
  12. KoreanStallion

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    This thread is on the 348/355 suspension. Never the less, I've posted below a picture of the 348 to 355 rear rail light panel swap. There is more information on the web about the 355 rear tail light swap. I'm not saying I'd do the swap to my 348. I"m just saying and proving it exists. To me, facts show the web has information about a swap kit. To me, the web has info that 348 doors panels and be swapped with 355 panels very easily as well. Ferrarium, you're still not addressing the fact that you're trying to play a game of who's is bigger? I am no means an expert - I never said I was. You asserted that I asserted I am an expert. Again, i dont see myself as an expert in anyway - but why do my posts threaten you so much? To be clear, I am posting for review/comment/modification/further discussion. That is what posts are for. I was very clear about my modest/humble approach to posts when you attacked me for instructions I organized and aggregated from the web for the benefit of fellow 348 DIYers. I did revive a thread on the 355 brass valve issue because i missed typed the issue. That is the power of open community collaboration. But lets face it you and now Qavion are just seeking control by manufacturing drama. By trying to insult to injure. You want to intimidate posters to suppress and stifle constructive blog contributors. Except the Ferrari community won't tolerate you bullying people as everyone is entitled to their opinions, requests for help and free speech. Every post by every contributor is not going to be perfect. So why do you two attack people? To your "comedian" attack about me above Ferrarium you remind me of a pathological and malignant narcissist just trying to cast shade on everyone else as you try and shine the spot light on yourself. Move on. In the end the Ferrari community won't tolerate your bullying. To neuro normal Fellow Ferrari community members I'd say just ignore Ferrarium, Qavion and JohnK's provocations as it will starve them of the narcissistic supply they are so desparately seeking.

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