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348 and alternator query......

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  1. bikz

    bikz Formula 3

    Mar 2, 2012
    1,043
    Malaysia
    so while I was in a place pretty far from home or any known workshops, my alternator went kaput.......i had it flatbedded to the nearest mechanic a friend told me about who does Mercedes Benzs mostly....
    I showed him my alternator once the car was jacked and he said he'll get me a compatible one....which he did and installed ( i think he mentioned it's for Hondas)......i'm not sure what make it is ( i just wanted to get back and flatbedding the car all the way back was way too much trouble and since i could get the alternator replaced, i went with it)
    I got back and didn't think much of it...my knowledge on electricals aren't that great...in fact borderline pathetic! so help me out guys....

    will fixing the wrong alternator with the wrong power ratings cause any issues ("yes of course it would you idiot" i hear you guys shout!! but what i meant was any damage?) the reason i am asking is my Aircond (HVAC) panel is acting weird and the dashboard and internal dial's lights are working on and off when switched on....other than that the car is running brilliant.....
     
  2. 97 Spider

    97 Spider Formula 3

    Dec 15, 2012
    2,241
    Texas
    Full Name:
    Brian
    If you can get it mounted and the wires hooked up in the right spots you can pretty much put any 12v alternator on any 12v system and it will work for you.
    The issue may be what rpm the alternator is designed for. Ferrari changed alternator brands during the production because the original was failing due to how fast it was being spun.
    Of course things have come a long way in 25 years and it may not be an issue with today's alternators.
     
  3. bikz

    bikz Formula 3

    Mar 2, 2012
    1,043
    Malaysia
    so i could check the power being generated by my new alternator right by hooking it up to a voltmeter/ammeter? with the engine running.... (please correct me if i am wrong, but the amperage depends on the the rpm of the spinning at? and not the voltage?)

    what is the right reading my 348 should be getting for everything to be running at optimum?
    thanks in advance guys.
     
  4. Brewman

    Brewman Formula Junior

    Apr 3, 2012
    417
    NC Mountains @ Boone
    Full Name:
    Joe
    Your description of the lights and AC panel sound like the new alternator does not have the capability to supply adequate current when fully loaded. This will in turn pull the system voltage down causing weird things to happen such as lights to be dim. I suggest you contact the mechanic that installed the replacement and get the part number. With this information Google it and get the specs. Compare this to the original alternator, my suspicion is the new alternator is underrated ( hope I'm wrong ). Also I would get the failed alternator rebuilt and reinstall or keep as a spare.
     
  5. FerrariDenmark

    FerrariDenmark Karting

    Aug 12, 2009
    137
    Denmark
    I have installed an alternator from a Daewoo Lanos - works briliant and is easy to mount. Mine had the old nippendenso alternator original.
     
  6. bikz

    bikz Formula 3

    Mar 2, 2012
    1,043
    Malaysia
    thanks FerrariDenmark....do by any chance have the part number for this?


    please advise on how i would know if the power being generated now is adequate/inadequate for the 348 ? thanks in advance
     
  7. Brewman

    Brewman Formula Junior

    Apr 3, 2012
    417
    NC Mountains @ Boone
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    Joe
    What I would do is measure the system voltage with the engine running and everything else off ( lights, radio, AC, etc) Then turn on devices until the lights and AC begin acting as you describe in your original post and measure the voltage again. Both readings should be virtually the same, if not I suspect the alternator is not supplying enough current. This is assuming the belt is not slipping or a loose or faulty connector where the wiring was disturbed during the changeout. Since your electrical knowledge is limited it might be best to have someone run this test for you.

    Best Wishes,

    Brewman
     
  8. bikz

    bikz Formula 3

    Mar 2, 2012
    1,043
    Malaysia
    without starting the car, turning the key to the no.II position, i tried testing the HVAC and lighting, they still behaved not right ( the hvac panel not turning on, esp the AC )
    do you guys think it still could be the alternator or something else?
     
  9. whyte

    whyte Formula Junior

    Apr 25, 2006
    409
    Merritt Island, FL
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    John C
    You're chasing a lot of things.

    Did you check the battery? A shorted internal battery will cause all king of headaches, and are fairly common. Any decent auto parts place can test an alternator and a battery for you. Batteries cannot be accurately tested without loading. Start with the basics:

    1. Battery good?
    2. Alternator good?
    3. Good connections to key points? I.e. What is the voltage drop from the battery to the fuse box?

    These cars are notorious for bad electrical connections, and for flaky AC control systems.

    Flickering lights sound like a bad ground. You'd have bigger problems that lights flickering if you were losing power like that.

    My guess if you have several electrical gremlins you need to sort, many of the bad connector variety.

    Good luck!
     
  10. FerrariDenmark

    FerrariDenmark Karting

    Aug 12, 2009
    137
    Denmark
    Ebay item 261703129287
     
  11. FerrariDenmark

    FerrariDenmark Karting

    Aug 12, 2009
    137
    Denmark
    If you go for this option, let me take some pictures of the modifications needed :)
     
  12. bikz

    bikz Formula 3

    Mar 2, 2012
    1,043
    Malaysia
    thanks guys....will have it looked by an electrician and report back...cheers
     
  13. bikz

    bikz Formula 3

    Mar 2, 2012
    1,043
    Malaysia
    just to update you guys, esp the brilliant guys above who offered advice, ....
    before i took it to the electrician i thought ill have a look at all the relays, the battery itself, fuses etc and guess what...the bullet connector which earths the -ve battery terminal to the chassis was disconnected.... plugged it, reset the master switch and everything is back running perfectly!
    having the car not earthed and running prior to this, would it have ruined anything? just curious....
     

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