348 Clutch Grease RePack Question

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  1. MAD828

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  3. POLO35

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    Interesting.....looks like yours, but one set of the small spring keepers backwards. Brown plates facing left?
     
  4. POLO35

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    MAD, look like yours and the other one you posted show the brown plates with the fat on the anti clockwise side, which by default would make the tops the same ....no other way. Strangely I watched MD video again and he has his one clockwise and the other anti clockwise.....nuts!!!! Made my decision I'm going to slap it together like yours! Thank you!
     
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    #54 POLO35, Dec 21, 2021
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    Correction, MD guy has BOTH with the fat on the right of clockwise with the corresponding tops matching. Sorry for the error......so his are in fact opposite of both photos:(( Very hard to see but if you zoom you can....I could really see it on a 50in tv!
     
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    You are trying to split hair. Put it back the same way you took it out, good enough.
     
  8. POLO35

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    Yep....Just gonna slap it together and get it back on the road....it's driving season!
     
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    #60 POLO35, Dec 24, 2021
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    Oh wow....Thank you. I wound up following MADs pix regarding the spacers and the small apring keepers orientation. I went with MD clutches video orientation of the brown friction plates however which are opposite of MADs and yours. Took yelcabs advice that I was way over thinking it... it's all put back together and working beautifully! Hot start problem solved I can't believe I put up with it for so long. On a side note I just couldn't bring myself to spend a $150 on the kluber (not the money, just principle and didn't want to wait for shipping from Germany) so I did a little research and I came across this: Super Lube silicone based exactly like kluber with a practical operating temperature from -45f to 450f, NLGI 2 and a 400g tub.....$10.51 From Amazon. Slightly higher than Klubers 180c/356f. I weighed out 200 g on a gram scale and it was not quite enough. I needed like an extra 100 g to pack all the holes nicely but again this car is working beautifully! Thanks too all!
     

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  13. 348Jeff

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    Providing that Superlube has the same temperature ratings as Kluber grease, you have contributed greatly to the Stooge catalog.
     
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    I use a similar grease with success in the old days. It has been so long I can't remember but it is probably on these pages somewhere in the earliest archives of Fchat. Kluber used to be cheap so I went back to using it but have not cracked open a flywheel in decade. $150!!!! NFW....lets see how long the super lube works. Note the date and mileage and give us a report in a year. My memory is that 280g was the number so 300 is fine. It is not an exact thing. We need to fill to stop the rattle.
     
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    #64 POLO35, Dec 24, 2021
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    Yeah, I have a tendency to overthink things. I actually took the 4 springs and packed them in the Palm of my hand old school as if I was packing a wheel brearng to make sure they were completely packed with grease.
     
  17. 348Jeff

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    It will be interesting to see if this lasts the course - brilliant discovery if that's the case and worth putting in the alternative parts thread. Do update us all with a long term report :)
     
  18. POLO35

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    For sure.... Forgot to mention the Super Lube grease is even fortified with PTFE you can actually see it in the grease almost like strands of fiberglass which seems to make it very stiff.... Although still rated NLGI 2, Which is the consistency of peanut butter.
     
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    I recall some older posts where someone was using some form of red line grease instead of kluber as well. I think it was actually red as well it's out here somewhere. Then I recall someone else commenting they use the same Grease. So definitely seems like there's options which is great.

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  20. POLO35

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    I think in some cases it's foolish to use 30 year old technology in today's world. Certainly today's grease is superior to 30+ years ago....same goes for oil, gear lube, brake fluid, coolant, fuel, led light bulbs, wiper blades,, etc.
     
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    Were you able to tap it out of the pumpkin with a mallet and a socket or did you have to put in in a press to press it out?
     
  22. MAD828

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    I have done it without a press, and let me tell you I much prefer doing it with a press.
     
  23. POLO35

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    I was able to tap it out using a 3 pound hammer and a socket it made me a little uncomfortable... but it did come out steadily with every tap! A press would certainly be the best option. Have also heard you can rig up a bottle Jack and a 2x4 and press it out that way if you have a sturdy structure above. As far as going back in I polished up the shaft end on the voith with Emory paper and put it in the freezer for about an hour and it dropped right in with little or no effort.
     
  24. Huskymaniac

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    Guys,

    I get a whining noise from the tranny when the clutch pedal is released that goes away when I press the clutch pedal. Any idea what I should do?
     
  25. Ferrarium

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    Possibly because my workshop doesn't have heat unless I turn it on, and it hasn't been on for a couple weeks, and it's freezing here in New Jersey, I just shook my pumpkin little and the voith slipped out of the bearing race.

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  26. POLO35

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    It's probably your throw out bearing going south, exacerbated by the cold weather.
     
  27. Ferrarium

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    Wait... the throw out bearing is on the other end of the pumpkin. I'm referring to bearing that the voith snout is pressed into with that 60 mm ring nut holding it. I recall you saying yours dropped right in when reassembling.

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