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  1. AceMaster

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    #1 AceMaster, Apr 20, 2009
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    I am about to attempt my very first coolant flush, but I have a few questions first. In this picture, can anyone tell me what #8, #9, and #10 are? In the manual, it only gives you a description up to #7. I see that #1 are the Air Bleed Screws, are these the screws that I would use to bleed the air out of the system or would I have to also use #7 which is also an air bleed screw. Also, based on these instructions sent to me by PAP (thanks PAP), for instruction # 3, are they referring to a radiator cap right on the radiator or do they mean the cap that is on the Expansion tank? Do both tanks have a radiator cap, or just one, or neither? thanks in advance, and if the responses can be in lamens terms that would be MUCH appreciated as I am not a mechanic, but PAP tells me it is very easy to flush the coolant system and can be done myself.


    1: remove right rear wheel and unscrew the inner fender liner liner (forward section is all that is need to come off),
    2: Unscrew the coolant drain on the bottom right of the coolant radiator, but do so only part way (i.e. don't completely remove the drain plug),
    3: Open the radiator cap and insert a garden hose that is only partially turned on such that when you start the engine in step 4 that your coolant level in your fill tank neither overflows nor drains out of sight,
    4: start your cold engine and let the car idle until the color of the liquid being drained from your right radiator reveals water-only,
    5: Turn off your engine and drain as much water now as possible,
    6: close your drain plug and fill your coolant reservoir with new coolant and water. Add coolant first, then water. Close radiator cap
    7: Start your engine and turn on your Heater to high heat, allow to idle until both cooling fans kick on,
    8: bleed your cooling system by slightly unscrewing both bleed nipples on the black cooling tubes on your firewall (right side U.S.)
    9: turn off engine and allow to cool, then check coolant level in reservoir the next morning when engine is cold.
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  2. PAP 348

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    #8 is a coolant manifold, #9 is the radiator and #10 is the thermo fan. Same as #5 and #6. :D:D

    This system has only one radiator cap. Its on the expansion tank #3. :):)

    Here ya go.....perhaps a little easier to understand. :D:D

    Jack car up.
    Place on chassis stands.
    Remove both rear wheels.
    Remove both inner wheel wells.
    Remove/loosen both radiator drain plugs.
    Open radiator cap and shove garden hose in there.
    Start engine and run till old coolant has been totally flushed.
    Turn off engine and drain the rest of the water.
    Close drain plugs and refit wheel wells and rear wheels.
    Lower car to the ground.
    Fill with coolant and top up the rest with water.
    Close radiator cap.
    Start engine and turn heater on.
    When both thermo fans turn on, open bleed BOTH bleed (#1) screws and bleed air out of the system. Ive never had to use bleed screw #7.
    Check coolant level in the morning when engine is cold.

    Give that a chop mate. Its simple really. :D:D
     
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  3. Gimme Fuel

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    Great tips guys!
    I gotta do this myself soon, as I dont know when it had it's last flush.:)
     
  4. troy_wood

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    I forget what the total capacity is but I know that I wasn't able to get all the water flushed out as the amount I put back in was 2 liters short of total capacity. As a result I currently probably only have a 60/40 water-antifreeze mix. So make sure you measure how much is going in...
     
  5. gidge348

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    #5 gidge348, Apr 21, 2009
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    Total capacity is 20 litres per WSM so 60/40 water-antifreeze mix needs 8litres of antifreeze.

    For a normal flush out (ie. not overheating or water like mud) just do as Pap says and stuff in a hose run the engine and wait til it comes out clear. There are 2 bungs on the side of the block as well but don't worry about them unless you have a problem, you will flush out enough of the old stuff with a hose and the radiator drain plugs.

    If you do have a problem you can back flush it out by removing the radiators, thermostat etc.. not 10 min job and would not recomend unless you have a problem.
     
  6. AceMaster

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    As usual, all of you guys are AWESOME!!! I plan on completing the flush in the next couple of weeks, I will post an update with the results in case anyone wants to compare with they find when doing their flush.

    cheers.
     
  7. Tom_C

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    IIRC, the lower #1 bleed screw ought to be bled first, as the upper one only comes into play after the thermostat opens, and ought to be done second. I read in several threads about doing one first and then the other. Course it may not really matter, if others have done it with both open and its worked fine... :)
     
  8. AceMaster

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    Thanks Tom - I will keep that in mind and also post notes about my findings on this.

    cheers
     
  9. PAP 348

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    I have opened both at the same time and bled air out of them both, so I dont really think it matters when you open them. :D:D
     
  10. AceMaster

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    Good to know PAP - thanks....one last question, when draining the radiators, do I drain both at the same time? or one first then the other?
     
  11. PAP 348

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    Open them both at the same time brother. ;);)
     
  12. AceMaster

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    #12 AceMaster, Apr 22, 2009
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    thanks once again - i just noticed in your instructions that you actually do say to open both at the same time, so my apologies for the redundant question!!!

    cheers
     
  13. PAP 348

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    Bah, you're right mate! :D:D
     
  14. AceMaster

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    #14 AceMaster, May 16, 2009
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    Okay gentleman, thanks to everyone's advice and patience on this thread I successfully flushed the coolant this weekend. I used 3 bottles of Prestone 50/50 (3.78Litres per bottle) and the rest is water. So that means 11.34 litres of coolant and 8.66 litres of water, which is 57/43 in favour of coolant - is that too much coolant? I was told that the coolant contains chemicals and is acidic that may harm engine components if too rich and that it should never be more than 50/50? I checked the coolant with a Hydrometer and the reading came to -45, and was advised that it should be around -26. Any advice is greatly appreciated. I also attached some pics.
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  15. BT

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    I believe the Prestone 50/50 is already coolant mixed with water (no need to dilute to make a 50% coolant mix), so you have a mix that is weighted towards water, which should be fine at least for the summer. If you use the regular Prestone and added the water as indicated your percentages would be correct, but since the coolant is already at 50% strength, your mix should be calavulated something like 29/71...
    :)
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  16. AceMaster

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    Thanks BT. I actually meant that I used the one in which you have to mix it with water, not the pre-mixed stuff....either way it looks like I am in good shape. I was just concerned that I have TOO MUCH coolant and not enough water.

    thanks again.
     

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