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  1. pbrown

    pbrown Rookie

    Feb 17, 2006
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    Key slides into key hole no problem - this is not a personal issue!
    Drivers side - when I turn the key L or R no resistance = no locking or unlocking
    Passenger side - door knob goes down to lock, pops back up within 3 secs.

    Need step-by-step on how to remove door panel & get things fixed.
    Right now, I can't lock it = No driving! FEEL MY PAIN?

    Thanks!
     
  2. No Doubt

    No Doubt Seven Time F1 World Champ

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    Your driver side door isn't fully closing.

    If one door isn't fully closed, the locks will go down for you and then pop back up. Ferrari calls it the Monica feature. Ba dum bump.


    It might also be a faulty lock-logic unit under your passenger fuse panel.
     
  3. Miltonian

    Miltonian F1 Veteran

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    #3 Miltonian, Feb 10, 2007
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    Patrick; You may have a broken plastic linkage piece on the back of the lock cylinder on the driver's door. This would explain why there is no resistance when you turn the key, and it is a fairly common problem. Be prepared for a shock when you go to purchase this piece - it's a tiny piece of plastic, worth about a dollar, but you can't get it without buying a lock repair kit, which I believe is over $100. There have been threads about this in the past, I'll see if I can find it.

    The inner door panel can be removed with basic tools, again, there are good instructions here. Or the outer door panel (the "strakes") can also be removed in just a few minutes, and actually gives better access IIRC.

    Edit: From an earlier thread, here are the contents of the "lock repair kit", item #7000655, cost approximately $140 from the dealer. It's the little red piece that breaks. It's also at least possible that the linkage arm has simply popped out of its socket.
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  4. pbrown

    pbrown Rookie

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    Miltonian and No Doubt- Thanks for your replies.

    The key has no resistance and the lock will not go down on the drivers door no matter which way I turn the key.

    Nothing electrical happening at this time. VERY HAPPY!
    Agree that the linkage must be off; didn't know about this little red piece. I'll find out the exact problem when I take the door apart tomorrow.

    Hopefully Daniel has these parts vs. having to go to FCI.

    A possible add to the Ferrari 348 page?

    That page prior to its being moved (I can't find it now) is brillant!
    It was a huge positive factor when being on the fence about buying the 348.
    Keep up the great work and thanks friends!
     
  5. Miltonian

    Miltonian F1 Veteran

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  6. amorepresto

    amorepresto Karting

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    You need to remove the door panel and take a look.
    When I had my 91 it was just the “C” clip popped off / wore out!
    Total cost 19 cents and 8 hours my labor.
    See diagram above #31 second from the left.
    Dave
     
  7. No Doubt

    No Doubt Seven Time F1 World Champ

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    Miltonian wrote half of that 348 Primer! He rocks!

    http://www.the348.com/tech/348.html
     
  8. No Doubt

    No Doubt Seven Time F1 World Champ

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    Good Post.
     
  9. No Doubt

    No Doubt Seven Time F1 World Champ

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    #9 No Doubt, Feb 10, 2007
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  10. Dean355

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  11. PAP 348

    PAP 348 Ten Time F1 World Champ
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    Gotta love the brotherhood. :D:D
     
  12. pbrown

    pbrown Rookie

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    This kind of advice would run $500+ at the dealership with no guarantee the lock would work relaibly/consistently.

    Hopefully it's just the clip!

    I'll write back once finished to let everyone know.

    Gotta Luv the Brotherhood!
     
  13. PAP 348

    PAP 348 Ten Time F1 World Champ
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    There is alot of love in this room right now gentleman. :p:p
     
  14. fatbillybob

    fatbillybob Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Since I race I have lots of these little parts off my car. Let me know if you need something.
     
  15. No Doubt

    No Doubt Seven Time F1 World Champ

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    That's so cool.
     
  16. pbrown

    pbrown Rookie

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    Finally got down to the real issue.
    Sorry no pics...digital camera on the fritz.

    Anyway.....took off door panel, everything ok, plastic piece and clip in good shape. Removed window and the back of the lock mechanism has a plate that's just cracked. Wore-out; fatiqued metal. Possibly I should lay-off the spinich.

    Anyway, part on order, should have it back in shape for a weekend drive!
     
  17. PAP 348

    PAP 348 Ten Time F1 World Champ
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    Good one. Expensive part? :)
     
  18. 348kk

    348kk Karting

    Jan 25, 2007
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    I got a similar issue, sometimes the dirver's side will not lock, when I turn the key to lock, it makes a lot of noise, its trying really hard to lock, but it doesn't.. so I left it unlock, next time it locks ok? weird.. it happens about 50% of the time.


     
  19. dr.mike

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    #19 dr.mike, Jul 10, 2008
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    Better late than never :)

    Those little red parts are available in stainless-steel from:

    P&T Engineering
    (714) 850-1266

    Should outlast the rest of the lock mechanism.
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