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  1. ernie

    ernie Two Time F1 World Champ
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    #601 ernie, Apr 15, 2014
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    Since I had the secondary air injection rails off, I liked the cleaner look. So I decided to put plugs in the holes.

    I looked high and low for bolts that would fit, and that were the proper length, with no joy. They are 16M/1.5 thread pitch holes, that are about 1"/25mm deep. The last bolt supply place I went to suggested I go to the local tractor shop. :eek: And guess what?! THEY HAD THEM! The plug for the oil filter housing off a John Deere 5520 fit PERFECT, with a very clean look!

    YEEEEHAAAA!!!

    "We all got a Hillbilly bone down deep inside." :D
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    #602 ernie, Apr 15, 2014
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    For the spark plugs I used Autolite 4163 plugs. Been running these in my car for a few years now. Relatively cheap, and perform just fine.
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    #603 ernie, Apr 15, 2014
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    The workshop manual specifies a 0.6mm - 0.7mm gap between the electrode and the electrode ground. I chose to gap them at 0.6mm. The reason is because these re standard spark plugs, and the center electrodes will start to wear over time. So as they wear I will still be within the specs.
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    #604 ernie, Apr 15, 2014
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    I have a spark plug gap tool that I used to quickly set the gaps. I inverted the gapping tool between the electrode and electrode ground, then slide the spark plug alone the gapping tool until it stopped moving. One side of my gapping tool was metric, and the other standard. I adjusted the gap until the center electrode stopped right in the middle of the .06mm line. Then double checked the gapping with my feeler gage.
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    Sweet! What is the part # and put it in the part interchange
     
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    #607 ernie, Apr 15, 2014
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    Here is an old school trick called, indexing the spark plugs. The main purpose of this is to get the spark distributed towards the exhaust valve/thrust side of the cylinder, to help create a better burn rate. The open side of the spark plug gets faced towards the exhaust valves and the ground strap towards the intake valves. If you want to learn more about it you can read this SAE paper on the subject. Cyclic Variations of Initial Flame Kernel Growth in a Honda VTEC-E Lean-Burn Spark-Ignition Engine

    To see where the gap was I marked the spark plug with a Sharpe marker so I could see where the open end was.
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    I forgot, but I'll call up the tractor shop and ask them.
     
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    #609 ernie, Apr 15, 2014
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    Before I put the plug in the head I applied some anti-seize to the thread.

    Trust me on this you do NOT want a spark plug getting frozen to the head and snapping off. Been there done that, don't wanna to ever have that happen again. It is a right pain in the ass, and I had to pull a head, send it to a machine shop to get it burned out.

    So…….

    Put anti-seize on your spark plug threads before you install them. ESPECIALLY since they are going into an aluminum head.
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    #610 ernie, Apr 15, 2014
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    When you tighten them down don't go nuts. There is a crush washer on the spark plug. You want to tighten them down enough to crush the washer, and have them in nice and snug. So do NOT go putting them in like you are King Kong.
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    #612 ernie, Apr 15, 2014
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    After I snugged down the spark plug I had a look inside the hole to see where the plug was indexed. This particular plug is aimed at one of the exhaust valves (the Sharpe mark is at the 7 O'clock position). Ideally I want it to be right in the middle of the exhaust valves. To adjust the spark plugs you would use different thickness washers to aim the plugs where you want.

    You don't really need to do this, this is just something I decided to do on my 348.
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    That's good for tonight, I'll be back tomorrow with some more stuff.
     
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    Excellent progress Ernie! :)

    Might be a good time to swap your hoses over to stainless ones. I did mine not so long ago and on the fronts took the opportunity to replace the hard pipes by making my own with solid brass end fittings. Cheap to do and looks much better :)

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    Awesome!! Thanks again Ernie, looking forward to seeing more tomorrow. :)
     
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    #616 ernie, Apr 16, 2014
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    And now for the rear main seal.

    I already had it removed because I needed it off in order to replace the sump pan on the bottom of the engine. So these pics here are just a mockup.

    The six 10mm nuts need to be removed from the seal housing.
    There are also 2 small bolts that are on the bottom that need to get remove from up under the block, and on the back side. After the nuts and bolts were off I removed the rear main seal, and seal housing.
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    #617 ernie, Apr 16, 2014
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    Here is a close up of the back of the crank. The splined hole is where the propeller shaft, running through the gearbox and into the flywheel, fits. The other drilled and tapped holes are not used.
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    #619 ernie, Apr 16, 2014
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    I had a look at the condition of the seal and found it had a tear in one of the lips. This is the updated seal. I had replaced the old style double seals 7 years ago with the one pictured here. Well guess the "updated" seal doesn't hold up so well. The lip that is torn is the one that faces the gearbox. The other two face the engine.
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    #620 ernie, Apr 16, 2014
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    To remove them I used my "original Ferrari rear main seal tools" right from the factory. They came with the car. :p

    Hehehehe :D

    What are they you ask?

    Why it's my old rear axle connecting flange, and my old factory throw out bearing with the ass blown out of it. The outer rim of the axle flange is the perfect size to fit around the opening on the outside of the seal housing. The throwout bearing fits perfect inside the housing hole for the rear main seal from the back of the cover.

    So what I did was, centered the housing so that the hole was aligned with the flange. Then inserted the clutch side of the throwout bearing into the cover hole. This allowed me to "press" out the seal with you damaging the cover.
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    #621 ernie, Apr 16, 2014
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    Actually I smacked it out.

    I put a 2x4 over the back of the TOB, and gave it a good whack. The rear main seal popped half way out because it bottoms out inside the axle flange.
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    #624 ernie, Apr 16, 2014
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    With the old sealant cleaned out I reapplied Hondabond to the bottom lip of the housing. There is nothing to seal the outer race of the seal against the inner hole of the housing. It just metal to metal, and that is NOT good for preventing oil from getting past. So that's why I applied Hondabond to it. I then smeared it around the bottom corner as evenly as I could.
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