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  1. plugzit

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    #1 plugzit, Aug 11, 2007
    I'm thinking about an engine swap in my 348, as I believe I've reached the maximum level of horsepower available in an Italian motor. For raw horsepower, there's nothing like American iron. So, I've decided to put a Ford motor in the car. My research indicates that the most speed equipment is available for the venerable 239 "flathead". I need advice on what equipment to use. So, here goes....
    1. Stroker or not?
    2. Strombergs (how many?) or injection?
    3. Catalytic converters necessary for smog?
    4. Supercharger?
    5. Right-side up or upside down?
    6. 5 or 6 speed...or F1?
    7. Would zoomies be tacky?
    8. Would mods on the engine count off in the concours at Pebble?
    9. What about chrome?
     
  2. VTChris

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    Kinda like what this guy did with his 928? :)
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  3. CavalloRosso

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    #3 CavalloRosso, Aug 11, 2007
    Are you SERIOUS?
     
  4. Davidt

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    #4 Davidt, Aug 11, 2007
    Say what????? :eek: :confused:
     
  5. angelis

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    #5 angelis, Aug 11, 2007
    Is it April 1st...????

    :D
     
  6. 348paul

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    #6 348paul, Aug 11, 2007
    ROFPMSL :D
     
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  8. FullChat

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    #8 FullChat, Aug 11, 2007
    If you want to do Pebble, you should at least stay with Ferrari engines. How about a 3 liter GP engine - not too many trophies, but adequate merging power and a killer exhaust note over 15k rpm - you'll LOVE tunnels!!
     
  9. Joe G.

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    #9 Joe G., Aug 11, 2007
    have you switched from cigarettes to marajuana ?
     
  10. PAP 348

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    #10 PAP 348, Aug 11, 2007


    x2!! :p:p
     
  11. I'm gone

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    #11 I'm gone, Aug 11, 2007
    I think you'll be fine at pebble beach, I don't think they even look under the hood, from what I hear they are not that picky.
     
  12. hank sound

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    #12 hank sound, Aug 11, 2007
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    OK Bruce, you just took me back to my High School days, so here goes----------
    C&T Automotive in North Hollywood built my 59 AB block for my 48 Ford Club Coupe

    1. ported & relieved - proper amount of polish:)
    2. 3/8 X 5/16
    3. JE pistons
    4. Edlebrock polished and painted heads.
    5. Edlebrock 3 pot manifold with Strombergs
    6. beefed clutch & lightened and balanced flywheel
    & all the usual stuff to make it proper for show and go.

    And now I'd like to do a 32 Highboy roadster-------------so maybe I will:)
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  13. nsxnick

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    #13 nsxnick, Aug 12, 2007
    Ford Duratec V6 Turbo (like the Noble)
     
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    #15 UConn Husky, Aug 12, 2007
    All good ideas...but I'd go with two turbo 4-cyl, one in front and one in back with each driving two wheels. :) :) :)
     
  16. plugzit

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    #16 plugzit, Aug 12, 2007
    Absolutely beautiful! Wouldn't that look good in a Ferrari engine bay! Then put the Ferrari motor in the '32 Hiboy!
     
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    #19 PaulK, Aug 12, 2007
    Feel free to debate if you should put American iron in your Itialian car, while I debate if I should laugh or cry.
     
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    #20 tchaic, Aug 12, 2007
    +1 on Paul K but I think the answer is laugh if he is joking and cry if he ACTUALLY did it...
     
  21. bcwawright

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    #22 bcwawright, Aug 15, 2007
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    Seriously Bruce, we have a solution for your problem.

    Stock configuration: 526hp @10,700rpm
    Engine weight: 256lbs.(including exhaust)
    9 cylinder
    36 valve
    6 cams(chain driven)

    Tri Turbo setup: 1005hp @10,200rpm

    We can cast the block and use CF matrix cylinder liners(to reduce engine weight under 250lbs) with iron coated forged aluminum pistons. Eliminate poppet valves and cams and use rotary valves(this is NOT like a Mazda rotary engine)......this will allow us to run 15:1 compression(O-ring the cylinder heads).
    Run 2 injectors per cylinder(1 high mount,1 low mount) fired in phase to rpm.

    NA Specification for this mod: 700+hp @14,000rpm
    engine idle speed: 5,800rpm
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  23. plugzit

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    #23 plugzit, Aug 15, 2007
    I want that motor really, really bad. Where can I get one? I'll build a mini dragster, put a chimp in it, and match race anybody!
     
  24. plugzit

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    #24 plugzit, Aug 15, 2007
    Oops, sorry-gotta go change my pants.
    Wouldn't that look great in a street rod?
     
  25. bcwawright

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    #25 bcwawright, Aug 15, 2007
    What???? You don't like my solution???......lol


    The engine looks big, but in fact I could just about put this in a motorcyle.

    2.8L

    Even the water cooling pipes are CF composite.

    We can get even more radical for a few extra$$$ by useing Nylon66 for some parts....
     
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