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348 euro vs 348 us spec???

Discussion in '348/355' started by Angelo348tb, May 16, 2006.

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  1. Angelo348tb

    Angelo348tb Karting

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    Can anyone list the differences, cosmetic, mechanical performance , etc....
     
  2. Llenroc

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    Hi Angelo, Do a search this has been discussed before. Ferrari lists 15 different versions. There are a lot of differences even from different countries in Europe. If you by some chance don't find anything report back and I can help. Regards, Vern
     
  3. Angelo348tb

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    cannot find anything, do you have suggestions or links??
     
  4. Llenroc

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    Probably the best way to see differences is going thru the parts book. The major differences on 348s from US to Euro cars in general are: different bumpers not in appearance so much but in strutural strength and no side marker lights on the Euro cars, no 3rd brake light, doors are heavier on US cars because of the door beam, different seat belts, different head lights, various warning lights, different engine ECUs, US right hand mirror has that script about objects being closer. I'm missing something I'm sure because I don't have the parts book in frt of me but, that should help. Why do you need to know anyway that answer might help in any further help I can give you. Regards, Vern
     
  5. tjacoby

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    different exhaust systems
    different gauges (metric for speed, temp, pressure, fuel)
    left-hand vs right-hand drive for some markets
     
  6. 6spdHorse

    6spdHorse Formula Junior

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    I actually have a 1991 348TS Euro version,just brought it from Switzerland...it's faster...less emission controls,...sorry to interupt.
     
  7. Angelo348tb

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    I appreciate the help guys but I am looking for specifics
    Horse power
    Engine specifics
    Exhaust specifics
    Weight etc.....

    Is there a web site???
     
  8. tjacoby

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    I've heard the spider's are 310hp vs 320hp, and Ferrari car weights are always a mystery - I wouldn't have much faith in official Ferrari #'s.

    I understand some markets don't require Catalytic converter's, which is why those crazy Albertan cowboys seem to like their Euro cars.

    Good luck and pls report back on the details!
     
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  9. Jas

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    Euro 348 Spider/GTB/GTS 320 bhp with catalytic converters. More without cats, but no idea how much more.

    Euro 348 ts/tb 300 bhp.

    No idea about USA cars, but they are supposedly heavier and have less power. And have something referred to as mad mouse seatbelts, which I've never seen!
     
  10. Llenroc

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    Ah.. Thats better a more specific question. The main design of the 348 engine didn't really change much through its life. But there were a few minor differences. The '89-'92 cars for the North American all hat cats and specific ECUs for that market and were quoted with 295/300 HP. Some early 348s engines had the 2.5 motronic vs the later cars using the 2.7 motronic system. A quick way of how to tell if you are looking at 2.5 vs. 2.7 is that there is only one throttle postion sensor on the 2.5. In '93-95 NA cars had 312 hp due to a revised exhaust, a single muffler vs more restrictive two unit system, IIRC revised ECUs also. The air injection had different type of pipe system on NA cars.
    Some other market cars did not have cats, depending on the market they were sold in. Although the later in the production run the more markets required cats. Sometime in '93 or early '94 (I'll have to look that up to be more precise) markets, other than the NA, Ferrari changed the intake plenum to slightly larger unit, the noticable change was different ribbing on the top of the unit. This upped the HP of this engine(by combining the exhaust and plenum change) to a quoted 320. From what I can determine the NA market never had this engine(H motor). 312 max hp (G motor) for the NA market. The cats being on or off the particular engine apparently did not change the quoted HP ratings. I've been told only 5-8 HP. The last 15 years or so the auto manufactures have engineered the injection/timing/exhaust to a fairly high standard as compared to years past when you got quite a different hp no. between a non cat and cat engine. Hope this helps. Regards, Vern
     
  11. Angelo348tb

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    thanks for the lesson in NA 348, much appreciated
    So, I own a Euro 348tb from switzerland, I assume full euro spec, less restrictive cats, little more horse 320, different exhust system etc...
    Sounds like a true advantage.
     
  12. Dr.T348

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    Depends on year. If it's a 348 tb it may not have more than US's 300hp. If it is '93-'94 GTB, then it has upgraded 119H motor with 320hp.
     

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