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Discussion in '348/355' started by fdekeu, Oct 1, 2009.

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  1. ernie

    ernie Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Yeah, cut the new belt and then super glue it back together. Should be good for 3yrs/30k.

    Hahahahahaaaaaa!!!!
     
  2. PAP 348

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    Lol!! Loctite make a strong superglue. ;);)
     
  3. PAP 348

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    #28 PAP 348, Oct 1, 2009
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  4. sambomydog

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    Joking aside the fact is that's true, you don't need to remove the pulley. The center bolt is undone and the pulley is pulled forward enough to slide the new belts in. There is no twisting of the belts either before anyone mentions it, the belt only has to slide behind the pulley. For example pulling the pulley forward even by 10-15mm allows the 7mm belt to easly slide behind the pulley.
    Why swing a door wide open to the wall to walk through. When you can easily walk through a door half open just as easily:)
     
  5. PAP 348

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    +1! Thats how its done. :D:D

    I dont know WHAT that person was thinking when he cut out that cross-member! Maybe had to remove the pulley? :p:p
     
  6. angelis

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    Maybe he just needed someplace to rest his arm on?

    :D
     
  7. ernie

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    Well I'm still pulling the whole thing out.
     
  8. AceMaster

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    lol
     
  9. sambomydog

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    #34 sambomydog, Oct 2, 2009
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    :D....Sorry have to do this, i am only trying to help..:D

    Look at this video... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvrlI3xGRaE
    Heres the translation into English from Italian...:D (borrowed from another forum)

    "In 1991 Montezemolo bought himself a yellow 348. One day he finds himself at a red light and a black GTI pulls up to him and beats him to the next light. Guy rolls down his window and in a Roman accent says "Monteze' this goes better than that". He goes back to the office without telling anyone what just happened and requests specs on the 348. This engineer by the name of Lombardi says to him "I'm the Ron Dennis of Ferrari". He goes on to say the 348 has the best in class acceleration. Montezemolo sits quietly through the presentation. He then says "Boys...unfortunately I'm a client of this ****ty car. It makes too much noise and barely moves". He then invited Niki Lauda to try this car (348) and he completely agreed with him."
     
  10. KKSBA

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    Wow! Depressing for 348 owners I'm sure as LDM is so well respected that anything he says must be true.

    It is quite shocking now that it has been translated...
     
  11. sambomydog

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    Na i wouldnt say that........But i agree with Niki Lauda:D:D
     
  12. AceMaster

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    I am very happy and very proud to own the worst Ferrari ever made. I have no intention to ever sell it, I will add more Ferraris to the collection if I ever want to get a different model, but the worst Ferrari ever made will stay with me forever.
     
  13. 348SStb

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    #38 348SStb, Oct 2, 2009
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    Look, not to hijack this thread and further its distance from the original topic...

    But look. It's well established that changing the timing belts and bearings and "servicing" the engine while the engine is in the car constitute the dumbest way to service the 348/355 engine. Ask any qualified mechanic. The best mechanics in the United States have commented on this board as to why over and over.

    Can the 348/355 engine be "serviced" with the engine in? Sure. Just spend almost the same amount of time removing the gas tanks. Is it the bonehead, bass-ackwards, penny-wise pound-foolish way to do it? You betcha. (Sorry Ernie you're certainly no bonehead :D And folks certainly should listen to you when you say it's the wrong way to do it since you did it yourself.)

    Lots of care needs to be taken with various steps of the process, such as the resealing of the valve covers. This is crucial. The same goes for putting the belts at proper tension and various other unmentioned important steps. Doing all these with the engine out of the car allows for the utmost precision and care and therefore the longevity of the job. Doing it with the engine in is, for lack of a better word, a fudgejob.

    Please. Don't buy a Testarossa, Mondial t, 348, or 355 if you cannot afford to either take the engine out yourself or have your mechanic do it for you the proper way.

    Case closed, please?
     
  14. sambomydog

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    #39 sambomydog, Oct 2, 2009
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    Being that you bought it up. Equally there are also the best in Europe (dealers and specialists) that do it both ways. Regardless of what the best in the United States say.
    Now you can close the case:)
     
  15. ernie

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    Whoa, whoa, whoa!!!

    I think you're confused.

    I didn't take out the tank to change the belt. NO!! I took out the tank to fix the stupid thing because the spot welds holding the baffles inside the tank pulled out and the tank was leaking. I also took the opportunity to wiggle inside the space for the tank just to see what kind of room there was in there.

    When I did my major I pulled the whole engine out, the proper way. And will be pulling the whole engine again to do the belts this next time around. Especially after having been inside the cramped space were the tank goes. No way would you catch me trying to change the belt by pulling the tank.

    Remove the engine to change the belts.
     
  16. PAP 348

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    Lol! :p:p
     
  17. 348SStb

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    Ah ah. I understand now.
     
  18. Aircon

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    the proper way to change the belts in an F355, according to the Ferrari workshop times book is either engine out OR fuel tank out.

    but what would they know?

    however, on the 355 the tank is secured by mounts that are not in slots like the 348 and therefore the tank wont come out easily.

    anyone know what the trick is to get it out?
     
  19. jm348

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    I have owned a 348 and currently have a 355.....I loved my 348 as it was my first Ferrari. I do miss the raw feel of that car. However, the 355 is simply amazing and I couldn't go back to a 348 after the 355. The power difference is huge, smooth 6-speed, the exhaust sound is incredible and the power top, seat and more modern feel inside I think all make for a better car. I do wish the power steering on the 355 had a bit less assist though...:eek:

    Had 348 for 2 years and currently 2.5 for the 355 and both have been problem free.
     
  20. KKSBA

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    There you have it, 355 Winner! 348 Fail. :D
     

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