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348 Questions: 3 color black/tan/red interior, int elec issues

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  1. itsablurr

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    #1 itsablurr, Nov 18, 2015
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    I have a couple of questions to submit to the group here, after searching around and not seeing much in the way of answers. As a prospective buyer, I've come across a 348 with a couple of items of interest...

    - 3-color interior (tan/black leather and dash, red carpeting) similar to the attached photo. Was this a US option, and what is the rarity? Not finding much info beyond some references to a typically more euro configuration.

    - The console clock is flashing 00:00, and will not hold a time set between starts, reverting back to flashing 00:00. Everything else in the console is functioning correctly. Are there any common areas to investigate to chase this bug down? fuses/wiring locations that may be easily check-able when viewing the car or at PPI?

    Many thanks!
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    #2 itsablurr, Nov 20, 2015
    Friday bump, anyone? Going to look at the car this weekend.

    Some additional searching shows that the clock flashing and other clock quirks are a relatively common phenomena, if my impression is correct. It looks like many just accept it for what it is.

    Still interested if anyone has info behind US/Euro 348s and 3-color interiors.
     
  3. Ferrarimondial348

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    #3 Ferrarimondial348, Nov 20, 2015
    Matt, have you checked the VIN to confirm if it's a US car? Judging by the safety belt configuration this is either a very early US car (1989), a seat belt conversion from the federalized mouse track set-up or a non-US spec car. Either way, the interior color scheme is beautiful. If its a US spec car then the interior scheme is indeed quite rear.
    Good luck with the PPI.
     
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    #4 itsablurr, Nov 20, 2015
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    Thanks, Stephen. I'm waiting on the VIN from the owner. He's not aware of any origination of the car outside the US, and it is a '92 with the factory mouse track belts.

    The photo above is not the actual car, just a representation that I could find online. Here is a photo of the actual interior.
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    #5 67bmer, Nov 20, 2015
    its all personal!

    I can not imagine why anyone would want red carpeting... I am sure black carpeting would look fine with red and tan.

    I am also looking and have seen several. I think there is one on eBay right now. You could change it. But I would like to stick to the original.
     
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    #6 ///Mike, Nov 20, 2015
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    Someone here had a car with an interior just like that offered for sale back in the spring. I'm pretty sure it was a U.S. car but I don't know if the carpets had been changed. Not sure how far back the posts in the classified ad section are retained, but you might do a search there in case the ad is still up. The car may have been discussed in this section as well.

    Edit: just did a search. Here's the car: http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/ferraris/478382-1990-348-ts-sale.html

    Also note that the cream beige interior shown in your first pic seems to be more common and popular in the UK and Europe, while the tan in the car you're looking at seems to be most common here in the States.

    Sorry, but no help for your flashing clock issue, other than to say that it sounds like the clock is losing backup power when the key switch is off. Perhaps a fuse, or a connection, either internal or external to the climate control unit. As you probably know, those climate control units are NLA and complicated, so make sure that the actual functions work as they should when checking out the car. I'd want a *big* discount on a car with a faulty climate control panel, but if it's just losing power to the clock that wouldn't be quite as much of a worry. I'd still use it as a point of negotiation though...

    Good luck and let us know how you find the car.
     
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    #7 Ferrarimondial348, Nov 20, 2015
    Matt, as a British ex-pat I'm rather fond of the tri-color interior and would definatly not change anything if it's origional. If she checks out after the PPI...buy it, they are so much fun..
     
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    #8 m.stojanovic, Nov 20, 2015
    Permanent 12V is supplied to the climate ECU (to Pin 1 of its external connector) from the main fuse (hidden under the boot carpet) for the AC/Heater system. Since the AC controls are working, it is not the fuse. Perhaps cleaning the connector pins will sort it out. It seems to be more the internal multi-pin connector that suffers corrosion than the external yellow connector. Otherwise, there could be a back-up battery (or back-up capacitor) inside the unit that needs to be replaced.
     
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    #9 4rePhill, Nov 21, 2015
    There's already more than enough black trim inside the 348, the red carpets add a nice additional contrast and helps make the interior feel even more special (personally speaking, I think too much black trim makes the interior look a bit Germanic and gloomy).

    In true Euro-style, I also think the Creme leather interior looks better than the tan leather as again, it brighten up the interior more (it's a absolute pain in the a:censored:e to keep clean though!).

    As you say: It's all personal! ;)
     
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    #10 67bmer, Nov 21, 2015
    It is Germanic!! I have a BMW with corel red leather seats and black carpet...
     
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    #11 ///Mike, Nov 21, 2015
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    If this wire coming from the relay very close to the "hidden fuse" is the one that feeds constant +12VDC to the climate control panel then there's a decent chance that it has a bad connection due to heat from an impending failure of the hidden fuse socket. The short wire between that relay and my hidden fuse was a crispy critter, and I can see how that could easily affect the connection for the smaller wire as well. If so, easy fix. :)
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    #13 DocRogers, Nov 22, 2015
    Is that the one in Middleboro? I saw it advertised and decided adding 2 Ferraris to my garage inside a single month was a tad excessive.
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    But if you buy it, I want to see it!


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