348 stored for a year and a half! | FerrariChat

348 stored for a year and a half!

Discussion in '348/355' started by Just4fun348, Mar 16, 2008.

This site may earn a commission from merchant affiliate links, including eBay, Amazon, Skimlinks, and others.

  1. Just4fun348

    Just4fun348 Rookie

    Mar 15, 2008
    9
    La Canda, CA.
    Full Name:
    Ara
    Had 348 stored in garage for a year and a half while out of the country. Cranks but wont start. Any suggestions?
    Thanks.
     
  2. Miltonian

    Miltonian F1 Veteran

    Dec 11, 2002
    5,966
    Milton, Wash.
    Full Name:
    Jeff B.
    Welcome to Ferrari Chat, Ara!

    Does your car have an alarm system/immobilizer that may have become engaged?

    Can we assume that there is gas in the tank?

    Has the car been parked in a "mouse-free" environment where no one will have been chewing on the wiring or building nests in the air intake?

    Do the warning lights on the dash come on normally when you turn on the key?

    By any chance does the engine sound like it is "rattling" while you are cranking it over (possible flywheel imbalance)?
     
  3. mseals

    mseals Two Time F1 World Champ
    Lifetime Rossa Owner

    Sep 9, 2007
    24,468
    Kuwait
    Full Name:
    Mike Seals
    Maybe cobwebs are dielectric....

    Mike in Kuwait
     
  4. No Doubt

    No Doubt Seven Time F1 World Champ

    May 21, 2005
    72,740
    Vegas+Alabama
    Full Name:
    Mr. Sideways
    Well, if you just want to force her to start, I'd suggest spraying a bit of starter fluid into the air intake.

    But there's a whole chapter on how to bring a 348 out of long term storage on the club348.com site...
     
  5. ernie

    ernie Two Time F1 World Champ
    Lifetime Rossa Owner

    Nov 19, 2001
    22,614
    The Brickyard
    Full Name:
    The Bad Guy
    I would start by putting in a couple of gallons of fresh gasoline. Then I would have a look at the spark plugs.
     
  6. Saint Bastage

    Saint Bastage F1 Rookie

    Jun 1, 2007
    2,548
    Connecticut
    Full Name:
    Lane
    I'm betting no stabilant in the fuel
     
  7. notbostrom

    notbostrom Formula Junior

    May 8, 2006
    957
    Orlando, FL
    Full Name:
    Ben
    gas + 1.5 years = glue.... would be my guess
     
  8. VTChris

    VTChris F1 World Champ

    Aug 21, 2005
    13,259
    Oor Ess for a year and a half :)
     
  9. Just4fun348

    Just4fun348 Rookie

    Mar 15, 2008
    9
    La Canda, CA.
    Full Name:
    Ara
    Thanks for all of your suggestions. Spent a few hours working on it today. Ended up spraying in some starter fluid. The engine starts up but dies in about 10 seconds. Looks like a fuel starvation issue. Hopefully just a loose or blown fuse. I'll keep trying and let you guys know.
     
  10. Just4fun348

    Just4fun348 Rookie

    Mar 15, 2008
    9
    La Canda, CA.
    Full Name:
    Ara
    Busy with work... I saw your link on Eugenio's website. I spoke to him about service and he is a month out. I know he gives priority to customers with referrals. Do you think you can help me out and get me in faster?
    Thanks,
    Ara
     
  11. PAP 348

    PAP 348 Ten Time F1 World Champ
    Lifetime Rossa Owner

    Dec 10, 2005
    100,220
    Mount Isa, Australia
    Full Name:
    Pap


    Sounds like a f*cked fuel pump to me. ;);)

    I had a friends car that sat for 18 months, fuel pump was f*cked. :):)

    Hopefully.....its a sticking fuel pump relay, but I doubt it mate. :):)
     
  12. Miltonian

    Miltonian F1 Veteran

    Dec 11, 2002
    5,966
    Milton, Wash.
    Full Name:
    Jeff B.
    Because the 348 has two fuel pumps, and two fuel pump fuses, and two fuel pump relays, it doesn't seem likely that both sides have gone out at the same time. But if it will run temporarily after spraying starter fluid into the intake, then it DOES seem like a fuel related problem. So....

    Once again, is it possible that you don't have enough fuel in the tank?

    Is it possible that you have an anti-theft system that shuts down the fuel system?

    It's possible that your fuel pressure regulators are bleeding the line pressure back into the tank.

    It IS possible that you have a problem with the wiring to the crank position sensors, since they need to tell the Motronic ECU's that the engine is turning over before the fuel pump relays will engage. We can explain to you how to manually bypass the fuel pump relays for test purposes, if you would like to try that. In the meantime, DON"T spray a LOT of starter fluid into the intake - just a small squirt for test purposes is enough.
     
  13. PAP 348

    PAP 348 Ten Time F1 World Champ
    Lifetime Rossa Owner

    Dec 10, 2005
    100,220
    Mount Isa, Australia
    Full Name:
    Pap
    #13 PAP 348, Mar 17, 2008
    Last edited by a moderator: Sep 7, 2017

    Ah, yes mate. :):)

    But it can happen........;);)

    I just remembered Ferrarifixer sent me these pics of 348 pumps last year.
    If I recall correctly, this 348 sat for around 12 months and both fuel pumps sh*t themselves. He replaced both pumps.
    I cannot find the other 2 pics showing the 2 new pumps together. :):)
    Image Unavailable, Please Login
    Image Unavailable, Please Login
     
  14. Miltonian

    Miltonian F1 Veteran

    Dec 11, 2002
    5,966
    Milton, Wash.
    Full Name:
    Jeff B.
    I suppose it's possible. If Ara can determine that the fuel pump relays are energized during cranking, or if he can run the jumper wires to determine that there is power getting to the pumps, and there is still no fuel pressure and the engine won't start by itself, then the fuel pumps may be the culprit. I hope it's something easier & cheaper to fix!
     
  15. PAP 348

    PAP 348 Ten Time F1 World Champ
    Lifetime Rossa Owner

    Dec 10, 2005
    100,220
    Mount Isa, Australia
    Full Name:
    Pap

    Yeah, me too mate. :):)
     
  16. Armenhaz

    Armenhaz Karting

    Nov 8, 2005
    232
    Glendale, CA
    Full Name:
    Armen
    Another 348 owner in beautiful Glendale!
    I'm sort of in the same boat myself Ara. I took my center console apart last July to have it refinished b/c the black stuff was just getting on everything, but have not put it back together since.
    Between a back injury twice (of all things cleaning windows in my house and repotting plants), working 60+ hours a week, family issues, the 348 has been sitting in the garage. Hopefully I'll be putting things together next week or so, and cranking it up and hoping the it will just fire up. I'll send you an PM, we have to get together for a drive since the weather is so nice now. Good luck with your car.

    Armen
     
  17. Just4fun348

    Just4fun348 Rookie

    Mar 15, 2008
    9
    La Canda, CA.
    Full Name:
    Ara
    That's it. She's going to the shop on wednesday to get worked on. I'll let you all know what it was. Hopefully nothing major. Thanks again for all of your input & support.
     
  18. PAP 348

    PAP 348 Ten Time F1 World Champ
    Lifetime Rossa Owner

    Dec 10, 2005
    100,220
    Mount Isa, Australia
    Full Name:
    Pap


    Cool mate. :):)
     
  19. Just4fun348

    Just4fun348 Rookie

    Mar 15, 2008
    9
    La Canda, CA.
    Full Name:
    Ara
    Got a call from Damian at Fusion Autosport. He got the car started today. Thankfully nothing major as far as fuel pumps etc... He just recharged the battery cleaned all the relays and started it right up. She is due for a major however so we'll go ahead and take care of that!
     
  20. PAP 348

    PAP 348 Ten Time F1 World Champ
    Lifetime Rossa Owner

    Dec 10, 2005
    100,220
    Mount Isa, Australia
    Full Name:
    Pap
    Sweet!! An easy fix then. :):)

    Thanks for letting us know mate. :):)
     

Share This Page