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348 timing question

Discussion in 'Technical Q&A' started by db4, Jan 23, 2011.

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  1. db4

    db4 Karting

    Oct 24, 2009
    94
    ny
    is no.1 cyl and no.8cyl at TDC at the same time?
     
  2. Steve Magnusson

    Steve Magnusson Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Jan 11, 2001
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    No, with a flat crankshaft in a 90 deg V8 block, the two pistons that are at TDC at the same time are always in the same bank. Are you clear on how the cylinders are numbered?

    Another way to see this is to look at the firing order of 1-5-3-7-4-8-2-6 with occurs over 720 deg (2 revolutions) of crankshaft rotation. The pistons that are at TDC at the same time are separated by 360 deg of crankshaft rotation - i.e.:

    1 and 4 are at TDC at the same time

    5 and 8...

    3 and 2...

    7 and 6...
     
  3. db4

    db4 Karting

    Oct 24, 2009
    94
    ny
    #3 db4, Jan 23, 2011
    Last edited: Jan 23, 2011
    all is measured against no.1 tdc for both banks? thanks
     
  4. Steve Magnusson

    Steve Magnusson Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Jan 11, 2001
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    Don't understand your question -- what are you measuring?
     
  5. db4

    db4 Karting

    Oct 24, 2009
    94
    ny
    sorry,i degree bank 1-4 at no.1 tdc my numbers check out , cant get the same results on 5-8 bank?
     
  6. Steve Magnusson

    Steve Magnusson Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Jan 11, 2001
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    For the 5-8 bank, you would rotate the crankshaft 90 degrees in the direction of normal engine rotation (from what you were calling TDC for cyl #1 where the #1 intake valve is just opening) to the PM5-8 mark (where the #5 intake valve should just be opening), reset the degree wheel on the crankshaft to correspond to TDC for cylinder #5 and then measure the cam lobe motions for cyl #5. Your flywheel should have a PM1-4 mark = TDC for cylinder #1 (and cyl #4) and a PM5-8 mark = TDC for cyl #5 (and cyl #8).
     
  7. db4

    db4 Karting

    Oct 24, 2009
    94
    ny
    thank you, i will give that a try
     
  8. db4

    db4 Karting

    Oct 24, 2009
    94
    ny
    that checks out ,i was 90* off for the 5-8 bank thanks again
     

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