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348's are rubbish and have crap handling!!!!

Discussion in '348/355' started by angelis, Jul 23, 2006.

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  1. angelis

    angelis F1 Veteran
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    The 348 has rubbish handling and is the worse car Ferrari ever made.

    When you drive it, you're likely to end up going the wrong way and hitting a tree. The handling and chassis set up is that bad!!!

    Who on earth would buy such a rubbish car!!!!


















    Now......... when ever you come across uninformed comments like that above, just give them this quote from a group road test by the highly respected magazine Autocar.


    "But the further we traveled and the harder we drove in France, the more special, the more unique the (348) Ferrari felt. We argued long and hard over which of the two made the best noise under full throttle, although no one disputed the fact that the NSX was more refined overall and had vastly superior gearchange. But ultimately this is as much the Honda's problem as it is its strength. Because it is so well honed as an all-rounder, so easy to live with, it misses out on that last 10 per cent of pure, raw thoroughbred sports car appeal that makes the Ferrari such a deliciously rich experience.

    Partly it is the steering; the NSX's is very good, the 348's exquisite. And partly it is the extra sharpness of the Ferrari's chassis, which is that crucial fraction more responsive to your inputs than not only the NSX but also any other supercar this side of £100,000 we can think of.

    Also, when the day is through and you switch off, climb out and glance over your left shoulder on your way up to the front door, the Ferrari will stop you dead in your tracks and force you to stand and stare in awe of its almost sexual beauty. And it'll happen every time you park it. In the Honda you'll probably just smile, then put the key in the lock and close the door behind you. That's enough to justify the extra £17,000 on its own."


    So now we can say it's better than an NSX!!! :D :D :D :D

    Full road test here: http://www.lotusespritworld.com/ERoadtests/S4_autocar_July93.html


    And here's what Jeremy Clarkson said at the time as well.

    "Should the man who wants to spend £76,000 on a motor car buy a 348
    tb? The answer is yes, yes and yes a thousand times.........if the car had been good, or even very good, that would have been enough, but the car is, in fact, a sensation. it makes a laughting stock out of the Honda NSX, and, as far as the BMW 850 is concerned, well, this is like watching one of those nature programs where a whale eats a plankton."



    Now you did'nt think I was serious about 348's being rubbish cars did you!!! :D

    (Sorry if it's a repost)
     
  2. chaa

    chaa F1 Veteran

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    Yep ya right, it is a rubbish car, and god knows why ya bought one:D
     
  3. traversale

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    than you cant drive a car!!!
    a 348 is for drivers the can drive a car a F355 is for drivers the think drive
    a car a 348 is a fantstick ferrari only you most no how to drive !!!
     
  4. Dr.T348

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    Could not have been said any better. I can't imagine a car that gives any better experience, especially my 348 CH.
     
  5. chaa

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    The 348 drivers think they have got a powerfull ferrari thats any good. While the 355 drivers know they have a powerfull ferrari thats awsome in every department:D...............And the power steering dosnt hurt my little arms:D:D And i am also great full that i have an electric roof on my spider, as opposed to the two foot long lever that ya need to raise the 348 spider roof LOL!!!!!:D
     
  6. angelis

    angelis F1 Veteran
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    How's your manifolds???

    Is your interior sticky again?

    You still letting your Mrs drive the car to the supermarket everyday?

    How many times have people asked you is it a fiero/MR2 kitcar this week?

    :D :D :D :D :D
     
  7. wmoon89

    wmoon89 Formula Junior

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    The words bad handling/chassis don't go along with the word "Ferrari."

    The guy must've been on crack.
     
  8. chaa

    chaa F1 Veteran

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    Oh what a mistake to direct them questions towards me you dick.
    My manifolds are in great shape and stil on the standard ones:D As are the original valves and the car has done 44k miles:D Yea!!!!
    What sticky interea are ya talkin about, mine is as new, the weather in the UK is not as hot as the US:D
    And yes i think its horny a beautiful woman driving a ferrari:D

    So Oops ya runt:D......Hey hows ya car handeling ROFLMAO!!!!!!:D And hows the over heating LOL!!!!!!!:D

    Strike!!! Ya out!!!!;)
     
  9. indytech

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    Man you really scared me for a sec.. Thought you would be buying a new Chevy or something. Just kidding Indy
     
  10. angelis

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    Well it all started from a thread on another forum, where someone was considering getting a 348 and he got the usual anti-348 comment as follows.....



    http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=291194&f=63&h=0
     
  11. angelis

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    ....... still there. :(
     
  12. liebkid

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    #12 liebkid, Jul 24, 2006
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    100% agreed.

    The virtue of the Ferrari 348 is its native raw feel that connects driver, machine and road, unique to a design school that is long gone in Ferrari's past for the worse or better. On a 348, sorry, there is nothing to help you if you don't know how to drive, aside from a fabulously designed machine and, your talent... that is, if you have it.

    The sad reality is most people have positively no clue how to drive. That is the bottom line. So, of course the 355 feels much "better" and easier... hell, try a 360 to see how easy, light and smooth it feels... better yet, take a F430 for a spin... its like a glove... or wait, even much, much better, wait for the 599 and from the videos and specs I've seen and read you almost won't be able to crash or loose control of it even if you try!

    Now, is that what makes a car "great" or is this only technology in progress to aid the masses that have no clue what being behind the wheel of a sports car really is, or, are all these computers simply masking most people total clueless aptitude of thinking they can drive.. anything?

    I have a few Ferraris. Some (very) new... some (fairly) older. I would never dare to compare what drives better or worse nor one to the other. A Ferrari, each Ferrari, is a masterpiece in its own right, virtues (and also certainly downfalls of course), but never, the downfall of being anything else than a thoroughbred, and, unlike any other car in the world.

    The Ferrari 348, I proudly have one, is a car that demands one to actually have a talent to be behind the wheel and make the most of the it, instead of computers under the hood doing it for you. Sad reality, but, welcome to the world of those that for change, can drive.

    And... sticky parts inside?... sure... tons of other things actually that time has not forgiven the model. That is why we take care of our cars. That is why we keep them running. That's why we keep them proudly, with the Enzo name behind them, someone that knew both how to drive and exactly what he was doing when making cars unlike anything else ever made before each one.

    Let's see when the Modena and F430 are also over 15 years older how they will hold what type of issues, sticky parts, broken components, and cracked microchips they'll be suffering from.

    The Ferrari 348 is not a bad car. Instead, it is one of the greatest sports cars ever built, true to the Ferrari name, with a styling like nothing else on the road, then, and now. A timeless achievement that looks, sounds and feel as amazing today as it did almost 17 years ago when it was first seen... and fortunally for all of us, the ones that know how to drive a sports car, one that doesn't drive itself nor helps you think you can. Instead it demands you do! Tough to swallow? then, to everyone who thinks the 348 is not a good car, sell it. A 348 deserves a better owner. One that understands it is a piece of automotive history, not an excuse for no driving skills.

    My 1992 348 below. I love it today. I will love and cherish it for as long as hopefully I can. Maybe not the easiest car to take out on the road if you don't know what you are doing, but, a Ferrari, that at pass 15 years of age, still inspires the world to admire what a pedigree sports car, is and should be all about.
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  13. Lagerlout

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    Post of the month!
     
  14. liebkid

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    :)
     
  15. boulty

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    Say no more.........Had a drive out yesterday evening with a friend following in his Audi TT. He couldn't believe the amount of people who stopped, stared, pointed and smiled as I drove past.....Class !!! These cars both classic and pracical. God I love it !!!!!
     
  16. angelis

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    <Sorry for the hijack>

    How's you hosepipes mate!!!

    :D :D :D :D
     
  17. VTChris

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    Great post!
     
  18. chaa

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    B$5tard!!!
     
  19. Durpen

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    The folks who don't like 348s must really hate older Ferraris! Imagine what they would say after driving a Daytona or a 250 SWB.
     
  20. liebkid

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    Precisely.

    Some people love Ferraris just because of the glamour all surrounding the name, but they don't have the first clue that, there are cars, AND THEN, there are Ferraris. Something totally different. And that within Ferraris is the particulars of each model, good and bad, that makes each one evolve to their next awe-inspiring machine.

    Me, expect for select antiques, I have no interest in cars other than Ferraris. I know this today. I knew this when I was 6 and both my imagination and bedroom was filled with posters on every wall and books on every shelf of every single Ferrari related item I could get my parents to get me, and that I'd devour with the insatiable curiosity of learning everything about.

    That's because, true when I was a kid and true today, about 20 years later ever other car maker in the world, Japanese, German, even other Italians... you name it, can do little better for a living that trying to copy and build on Ferrari's heritage of tradition and passion for automobile excellence. Porches Carrera GTs, Mercedes SLRs, Infinities G...somethings, Acura NSXs, Toyota MR2s, Saleems...whatever, Lambogees... all wanting to be Ferraris and doing no more than building great cars no doubt, but just, great cars. But Ferraris are more than great cars. They are what the passion for driving is all about. Get into any Ferrari, even a '48 Barchetta 166MM Touring or a '52 195, that to current standards are basically exempt of the what we know to be speed or handling... but... the heritage, the pure ardor, the design no one can imitate, is all there and they are as exhilarating as they were almost 60 years ago.

    All other cars get old. Ferraris stay Ferraris, and that is the difference.

    We will read threads in 20 years from people stating that the Enzos were horrible cars, that the 360s were junk and that the surviving F430 handle like crap and have broken plastics inside. Some people will never get it, and that is why, as exclusive as Ferraris are, they are built for the very few that truly understand what they are all about.

    That's why the rest of the world happily drives ultra-reliable Honda S2000s and alikes, and I drive cars that ask for no excuses on the down faults and quirks of their obsessive innovations, no matter year, model or series. They are Ferraris and ever single one is the product of untamed inventiveness, untainted luster and world-class factual excitement for the road, at its best.
     
  21. wax

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    When Luca di Montezemolo publicly offered his take on the 348, he reminded me of a typical new supervisor not just charting the course but castigating (then current) current standards to elevate not just the company, but himself to a visionary with job security. Did he go public with equally negative comments about 355 problems?
     
  22. vegas1

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    Very well put and a great post. I agree 110%. 348's rule.
     
  23. liebkid

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    :)
     
  24. RobS

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    great post liebkid.
     
  25. GTHill

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    Ferrari's evoke emotions that few (if any) other cars can. After my first Ferrari ride at 7200 RPM's, I actually teared up. If a person doesn't feel that kind of emotion in a Ferrari, you will NEVER be able to explain it to them.
     

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