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Discussion in '348/355' started by Dave In Jersey, Mar 20, 2004.

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  1. Dave In Jersey

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    #1 Dave In Jersey, Mar 20, 2004
    Hello all, I'm new here and in need of some help. I've owned a 1988 Porsche 911 cab for the last 5 years, and decided a few days ago it was time to put her up for sale, and take the F car plunge! I bid on & won a 1991 black 348ts on ebay. The sellers are BMG Motors in Stanton, CA. I've spoken to Lance at BMG at great length, and their feedback is good. I had him fax me a copy of his surety bond with the state of CA. I'm not sure how else I can check them out. My questions are: I believe I got a great price on this vehicle at $39,888(car has 44k miles) link:http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&category=6212&item=2467488207&sspagename=STRK%3AMEBWN%3AIT so I'm naturally looking to you, the experience Ferrari folks to offer up some advice on the deal, and BMG Motors- has anyone has ever dealt with them before. Is anyone near Stanton where they could recommend a good inspection person? No $$ has changed hands and will not until Tuesday of next week. Thank you in advance!!
     

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  2. Ricambi America

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    #2 Ricambi America, Mar 20, 2004
    Get the service records scanned and sent to you. If the car really has an "up-to-date" 30K performed by somebody reputable, then indeed, you might have a nice deal on your hands!

    The exterior condition looks good -- but they always look good in digital pictures on eBay. With the right lighting, anything shines!

    I believe the pricing on that car is directly related to the interior and miles. What's the alcantra-like material? Why is it there? Was that ever a factory option? Heck, it probably wears like iron and makes more sense than the easily scuffed hides in everybody else's car. I'm a 348 owner too (black/tan), and don't profess to be anything other than a complete newbie -- so I just don't know.

    Others folks want to chime in?

    -Daniel
     
  3. Dave In Jersey

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    #3 Dave In Jersey, Mar 20, 2004
    Thanks for the reply. I was told the car has two customizations: the seats, which were done in a suede like fiber with leather only on the bolsters(which I too thought might be nice, as my Porsche has a lot of seat were/cracking), and the rear tail lights were "blacked out", i.e. you don't see the red and yellow when they are not lit up. I thought that was pretty cool as well.
     
  4. kenster888

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    #4 kenster888, Mar 20, 2004
    The wheels are on incorrectly. And that is one strange interior.

    If all checks out you'll enjoy this car. Congratulations.
     
  5. JSL

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    #5 JSL, Mar 20, 2004
    Hard to tell. I own a 92 348 and it is a pretty fun car. You will need to get used to the cold shifting but once you get over it, it isn't a problem. At this price you probably got a pretty good deal. If it were correct in all ways, it would probably be worth more like 47-48K. You have room to spend a few $'s if necessary. Just be ready to make a little more of an "investment". These are not anything like your Porsche. Good luck, you are probably ok. If the service was done, good buy. Enjoy
     

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  6. JSL

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    #6 JSL, Mar 20, 2004
    What is your risk tolerance? Speculation on R.E. is very risky if you don't know who you are in business with. 30K seems like a lot of money but it really isn't enough to go into real estate without being highly leveraged. If you want to invest in real estate, buy a starter home that you will live in. Probably the best investment you will ever make and you will get to live there. Otherwise, find a good mutual fund, put the money in and leave it alone for the next 10 years. You won't need to worry daily or manage the investment too closely. I am selling my investment real estate right now since the appreciation has been so great. Don't invest in a small business where you are a silent partner. You have no control and the money will disappear. BTW, I'm a 3rd degree black belt. Martial arts studios have very few real assetts other than the teacher. He goes, the business goes. Be careful.
     
  7. JSL

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    #7 JSL, Mar 20, 2004
    Sorry, this was posted to the wrong thread! Please disregard.
     
  8. nzo4re

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    #8 nzo4re, Mar 20, 2004
    Never, never, never buy a car sight unseen. I had a 91 348 and ECUs, clutches vplus the alternator are issues in that year. Also, it's an obvious repaint and the add says it just had a 10k service? Yikes!

    Good luck bro...
     
  9. Jerrari

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    #9 Jerrari, Mar 20, 2004
    Very sharp car, love the black! I am not crazy about the seats, but that is a minor issue, especially if you like them. Congrats!
     

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  10. Exoticbro

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    #10 Exoticbro, Mar 20, 2004
    Hello Dave,

    I do have some info. on this car.
    please feel free to call me at 636-273-6774
    or e-mail me at info@exoticautobrokers.com

    Chuck
     
  11. Tomf-1

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    #11 Tomf-1, Mar 20, 2004

    This is ONE of the many reasons why I love this community.
    Good luck, Dave. FWIW, go see the car in person and do a PPI....regardless of the dealer's reputation.
     
  12. Dave In Jersey

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    #12 Dave In Jersey, Mar 20, 2004
    Thanks for the time you spent on the phone with me earlier today-I was invaluable info. I'll let you know what I find out on Monday. Here's the link to the Porshe in case you copied it down wrong: http://www.geocities.com/mouseyjoe/porsche.html
     
  13. Murph4Enzo

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    #13 Murph4Enzo, Mar 20, 2004
    Dave,

    What are you asking for the 911 Cab? I'm quite interested and have been involved w/P-Cars for many years, and currently have 4, but no cabs. please e-mail me privately, located in Philly.

    Regards,
    Chris Murphy
     
  14. tifosi69

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    #14 tifosi69, Mar 20, 2004
    Looks like somebody got a great deal assuming the PPI checks out. I like the Alcanatra suede look, very "race-car" looking.
     
  15. davey_jones

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    #15 davey_jones, Mar 20, 2004
    PPI PPI PPI PPI PPI PPI

    Did I say get a PPI?

    It's not personal, just good business!

    dave
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  16. Tennlee

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    #16 Tennlee, Mar 21, 2004
    Auctions over. Did you buy it?
     
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  18. Jerrari

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    #18 Jerrari, Mar 21, 2004
    SRA, very nice 348, I love that color. Good luck!

    P.S. Please fill out your profile for everyone.
     
  19. Exoticbro

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    #19 Exoticbro, Mar 21, 2004
    Hello Dave,

    Glad to be able to help, give me a call on Monday.
    I did see the pix of the 911 and it looks nice.

    Chuck
     
  20. Dave In Jersey

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    #20 Dave In Jersey, Mar 24, 2004
    Well...I'm not getting the car. Turns out the $500 differential problem they were getting fixed is really a cam belt issue($4800). In defence of BMG Motors, Lance called me himself to tell me. He feels ripped off by the dealer he bought it from, and I do believe he has been upfront with me the whole time. I've sold the Porshe too. Now I'm left looking for a 348ts in black that's somewhat nearby NJ, I don't think I can handle threalities of buying a car that's 300 miles away. Thanks to everyone for their help, keep me in mind if you see my car out there at a reasonable price.
     
  21. SAF1

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    #21 SAF1, Mar 24, 2004
    I like your car. Great car. I am interested. Please PM me as to how much will you take. Thanks.
     
  22. vincent355

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    #22 vincent355, Mar 24, 2004

    Dave,

    My 348ts is for sale. It's on ebay right now, 92 348TS black on black. pm me or send me an email at vhmgeorges@aol.com, I can send you some more particulars, including the service history. I have no idea how the auction is going to go, but you might want to take a look at it in case someone backs out. It's nowhere close to Jersey though.

    Vincent.
     
  23. Dave In Jersey

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  25. CarreraScott

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    #25 CarreraScott, Mar 24, 2004
    Vincent
    Which early 70s car are you looking to get?
    scott
     
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