Hi Roland, How are you doing ? Good to know you are still on board. Among your research have you discovered where these pics were shoot ? Around Bologna ? in Tuscany ? somewhere else ? Not quiet evident as Mr. Rambaldi, the photographer & printer, is dead !!! Zagari files doesn't clarify either... Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
Dear Olivier, I'm fine, thanks. I know you try to find that location but I never searched for it. I can make a try through some contacts in Emilia. As you know, I live in Turin. That is why I got the chance to discover the original Sargiotto works, I never hoped to find again. I'm curious what you will think about the next Lambo articles we are going to publish.
Ah ha! So Rolando, do you know the chassis numbers of these cars? >>13 cars are delivered in 1964. The first 350 GT sold, a silver grey one, is for the musician drummer Giampiero Giusti from Lucca. The second one, red, goes to Roloff in Switzerland. At the last moment, they realize the camshafts of this 350 GT are not correctly centered. During the lunch break, Giuliano Pizzi fixes this shortcoming, after which the owner, without knowing of the intervention, proudly drives back to Switzerland. << I had heard that the dummer purchased #101, which was crashed by Bob Wallace. Is that true? The official factory list, available at Tonino's museum, doesn't list a red car until #110, which was sold later than the previous 1/2 dozen or so. Do you have some chassis numbers for these cars mentioned above? Thanks, Fred PS: However, "the second car" -- if that is #102, that had a red interior and was delivered to switzerland -- so does the article mean "red interior" and not "red exterior"??
Hello Fred, We don't know the chassis numbers. But what we mean is that these were the first cars delivered to customers. As you know, there can be a difference between production and delivery. It is perfectly possible that the first and second car delivered had chassis numbers not in line with a normal chassis numbering starting with 101. We are fully open for your remark of red interior instead of red exterior. The testimony comes from Giuliano Pizzi and more than 45 years later, this can be an understandable error. The grey car featured in the article is believed to be the first car delivered to a customer, the drummer. This was told during the Concorso Villa d'Eleganza when the car was presented to the public. We didn't want to write it because we don't have proof. In any case what triggers me, is the fact the logo of the car has the 2 colors, white and black. As far as I know, there are no other Lambo's with such a logo but we welcome any comment on this subject. Thanks for your comments, I appreciate them very much. Rolando (this name was given to me by Ferruccio, since he didn't like my official name Roeland)
The first 350 GTs bought by Mr. Oloff were not red (I have his list). In begining of 1967 he bought with Mr. Therer (his financial partner) a second hand 350 GT from Italy, red. This is the 1st 350 GT red to be imported in Switzerland, a used car. They bought it to make test drive for potential customers instead of risking a new one between unskilled hands... Mr. Oloff used to race that red 350 GT in hillclimbs... same picture displayed in many Lambo books... it is #0118, now displayed in factory Museo ! "Giusti - Justin" the drummer's scene name was playing with his band in a still well known Club at Viarregio on the seaside. He is the 1st ever customer to have bought a 350 GT, one of the prototype car. Bob Wallace has not destroyed Justin's car, it was another one. Good work Orlando, I'm close to you, only some details differ slightly.
Ah! The car at Concorso Villa d'Eleganza was #102. #101 is long gone, crashed by Wallace during testing from what I've heard. #102 was not the first car delivered to a customer -- I have that information on my other computer and will post here, I believe the first delivery was #104. Rolando -- that's funny that Ferruccio didn't like your real name and changed it! Ha! That's an honor, yes? Fred
eek! Olivier -- what is the number of the car that the drummer bought? Stefano said he thought it was 101. And what car did Wallace destroy? (or is that for the book :-D Cheers, Fred
Dear Fred, For sure it is an honor. When Ferruccio signed things for me, he always wrote my name in the wrong way. When writing Rolando, it was always correct.
ok folks, here's what I have for the first 5 cars: 101 - verde ginevra/blanco - _____ - Italy 102 - grigio metallizzato/rosso - 8/15/1964 - Schmidt - Switzerland 103 - grigio biacca/nero - 6/27/1964 (or 10/26/1965) - _____ - _____ 104 - grigio metallizzato/bleu - 7/31/1964 - Giusti - Italy (Lucca) 105 - bianco acrilico/rosso - 8/20/1964 - Grant - _____ Incomplete, I know. But Giusti (the drummer) is with 104, correct? Which would make it the first car delivered according to my notes. The factory list -- From Tonino's -- says 103 is first delievered, but...I'm not sure about that. 103 seems to be more of a mystery car. Of course, if that's correct (which is fine with me) then #102 would be the 3rd car delivered. Also, is "Roloff" a dealer or an individual? >> The first 350 GT sold, a silver grey one, is for the musician drummer Giampiero Giusti from Lucca. The second one, red, goes to Roloff in Switzerland. << Just trying to sort all this out. Thanks! Fred
hum hum... Roloff's car is not red ! as I've explained you the 1st red car imported in CH is not a new one but a secondhand from Italy. Also, you must understand that the very first cars were "resprayed" 2 to 3 times before being sold. They were prototypes... It was Ferruccio's strategy to bull**** people leaving them believe the production & orders were raining at Sant'Agata... The very 1st 350 GT defined by its future owner is #0106... so before 101 to 105, just prototypes & development cars !
So Olivier -- that means that #102, which has been displayed as the first (delivered) production car (in the top "International" shows such as Pebble Beach and d'Estes) was simply a prototype? Possibly even resprayed before being sold? (Have you seen the build sheet for 102? Paul Roesler, the previous owner, lived only a few miles from me. We have talked often, including when he showed his car at Pebble Beach. So you're saying that build sheet was faked by the factory??) Interesting! Seriously...it is, because this information is what determines how it has been presented (and judged) at these shows... Best regards, Fred
1. Yes it was one of the 5 R&D cars. 2. 2 or 3 times. 3. Never 4. No, just adapted later when they starts to record, so different informations from what Wallace & Stanzani had at first in hands !!!
Excellent. Well, looking forward to your book, Olivier -- that's for sure. I think you've just got to have access to better information over there in Europe than what we have access to over here... "in the States." Cheers, Fred
OK we know where are 101 (destroyed by Wallace) & 102 (belonged to Roesler).... But what about 103, 104, 105 ? Any idea who owns them and where to find them ?
Fred, Not that much movement on the market... Kevin had my attention focusing on a 400 GT #0574 original factory documented for sale in Belgium... I will go to look at it tomorrow : http://www.anamera.com/en/detail/car/156409/index.html?no_cache=1&ret=63
