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  1. TridenteFury

    TridenteFury Karting

    Sep 28, 2014
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    #1 TridenteFury, Jan 12, 2015
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  2. Dr. K.

    Dr. K. Karting

    Mar 23, 2011
    115
    Hello,

    do you know the engine number?

    Thanks and best regards
    Hans
     
  3. TridenteFury

    TridenteFury Karting

    Sep 28, 2014
    78
    Ciao Hans,

    I'm awaiting his email response...

    Carlito
     
  4. TridenteFury

    TridenteFury Karting

    Sep 28, 2014
    78
    Engine # 1037. Checked out by the Maserati Archive Dept. as being from a 3500GT Touring...
    Engine was bought as is by the owner, without any other info, such as kms..
    Engine is not seized, turns over freely by hand, owner's mechanic's said it is a good unit.
    Such engine fully restored would fetch EUR 40K

    Grazie
    Carlito
     
  5. Dr. K.

    Dr. K. Karting

    Mar 23, 2011
    115
    Hello Carlito,

    many thanks for the update.

    Is the complete number: AM101.1037.

    Usually this must be stamped on the block.

    Best greetings
    Hans
     
  6. 3500 GT

    3500 GT Formula 3

    Nov 2, 2008
    1,398
    USA
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    Gentleman Racer
    Ciao Carlito,

    According to my humble archive, the engine you have is for a 1960 Vignale Spyder late production 1960. It may have been a Girling front disc brake car, with 5-speed ZF 17 gearbox.

    Do you know why Maserati Archive says it's for a 3500 GT/Touring??? Was the engine originally bought from Maserati as a spare?

    Ciao and best,

    ~Trev
     
  7. 3500 GT

    3500 GT Formula 3

    Nov 2, 2008
    1,398
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    Gentleman Racer
    Apparently AM101.1037 is lost, but the engine survives.
     
  8. TridenteFury

    TridenteFury Karting

    Sep 28, 2014
    78
    Hi Trev,

    Am just being the owner's messenger... Still awaiting his confirmation concerning complete # is AM.101.1037...
    Mr Orsi stated the engine from a 3500GT Touring, please check with him...
    Mr Orsi and Mr. Cozza stated this engine, fully restored would fetch EUR 40K

    Cheers
    Carlito
     
  9. Dr. K.

    Dr. K. Karting

    Mar 23, 2011
    115
    Hello Carlito,

    Maserati 3500 engines have two numbers, usually.

    The first is the so called "numero interno", which is stamped on the left frontside of the block.

    After completion it was stamped without knowing, in which car this specific engines "ends".
    This number corresponds with the main bearings caps etc.
    It´s only a digit number without letters as "1037".

    After installing the engine in a specific car, the "usual engine number" is stamped; same as VIN (AM101.1037).

    Sometimes it was not done; I´ve seen engines without these numbers.

    IMO typical italian way of manufacturing.

    That was my reason to ask you.

    Best greetings
    Hans
     
  10. TridenteFury

    TridenteFury Karting

    Sep 28, 2014
    78
    #10 TridenteFury, Jan 14, 2015
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    Ciao Hans,

    Ah, Ok I understand you concern..;)

    I got confirmation that "1037" is the # number stamped on the left frontside of the engine block, by the water pump...

    The owner told me there are no other # on the engine block, so as you mentioned, in this case it seems stamping the "usual engine number", same as VIN was not done... The typical Italian way of manufacturing...

    Also Oil has been put in the cylinders to keep if well conserved...

    Cheers
    Carlito
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  11. 3500 GT

    3500 GT Formula 3

    Nov 2, 2008
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    Carlito as Hans stated, that is the "internal engine manufacturing number" or "engine build" number that was used to keep track of the engine and it's internal parts when it was being assembled at Maserati. That is what the photo you sent is.

    If the pad on the passengers side near the end of the engine block at the top where the transmission bell housing bolts to the engine is blank, the only way to tell what engine this car came from is to have Fabio Collina at Maserati research the internal engine number as to what car it was built for.


    Thanks for posting, very interesting.

    ~Trev
     
  12. TridenteFury

    TridenteFury Karting

    Sep 28, 2014
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    Was told that there aren't any other numbers, so transmission bell must be blank.

    Yes I agree Trev, Mr Collina is the only one who can tell to what car this belonged to...

    Carlito
     
  13. Dr. K.

    Dr. K. Karting

    Mar 23, 2011
    115
    Hello Carlito and Trev,

    correct.

    Only Fabio Collina is in the position to find out the right car.

    In the official Built Sheet the "numero interno" is written directly beside the VIN.

    But it would take a lot of time for Fabio to look after all built sheets.

    Anyway; I ask him.

    cu
    Hans
     
  14. TridenteFury

    TridenteFury Karting

    Sep 28, 2014
    78
    Mr. Collina confirmed #1037 is from a 3500GT Coupe, but due to him not being 100% sure as to which precise car it belonged, he rather not speculate on giving a car chassis #...

    Ciao
    Carlito
     
  15. AM101

    AM101 Rookie

    Mar 11, 2015
    20
    In my search for an engine for my car, I am surprised how may engines turn up without engine/vin numbers stamped on he block. Is this because thay are replacement engines supplied by the factory?

    Regards,

    Mark
     
  16. andymont

    andymont Formula Junior

    May 16, 2007
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    #16 andymont, Mar 20, 2015
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    The engine of my 3500 has never been replaced and I'm sure of this, because I've Maserati documents stating it.
    In the meantime it hasn't stamped on the transmission bell, the matching number of chassis. I've only the internal number stamped on the left front side of the engine
    I don't know why, but I know that many other cars show the same set-up from the factory.

    Ciao

    Andrea
     
  17. awohlmann

    awohlmann Karting

    Jul 6, 2008
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    I completely agree to this. The same happened on my Touring coupe, completely original, never restored and never changed an engine - no number on the transmission while the internal number is written on the technical sheet of the factory. I personally also have seen 3 other cars (Vignale and Touring) without an engine number but never one without an internal number. Nobody could tell me how this could happen.
    Ciao Alfred
     
  18. Portenos

    Portenos Formula 3

    Aug 20, 2004
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    #18 Portenos, Mar 20, 2015
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    My 3500 # 2818 has no chassis number stamped on the block but carries the internal number of 2095 which is stamped on the block in front and is written on the build sheet.
    Case Closed.
    FGM
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  19. twertman1

    twertman1 Karting

    Aug 15, 2011
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    #19 twertman1, Mar 23, 2015
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    Can someone please share a picture of what an engine with a vin number on it looks like? So far all I have found on my block is the internal number, 2169. I found a three digit number on the back of the head, 191. I want to make sure I am looking in the right spot before I'm completely sure there it isn't one there. My car is a 1963 Maserati Sebring. Thanks.
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  20. carnutz

    carnutz Karting

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    #20 carnutz, Mar 24, 2015
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    Todd, the VIN, if present, is stamped on the horizontal surface of the block above the starter motor and just below the cross over rod for the throttle linkage. Attached is the stamping on my 3500GT.
    Larry
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  21. mamamia

    mamamia Karting

    Dec 14, 2010
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    Henry Jameson
    Has this engine been sold ?
     
  22. AM101

    AM101 Rookie

    Mar 11, 2015
    20
    Hi,
    I contacted the gentleman with the engine this morning, and unfortunately it was sold 3 weeks ago.
    This means my search for a 3500GT engine, and 4 speed gearbox continues.
    If anyone can help with these parts, or any other GT parts please feel free to PM me.
    Regards, in anticipation,
    Mark
     
  23. mamamia

    mamamia Karting

    Dec 14, 2010
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    England
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    Henry Jameson
    Thank you for that.
     
  24. RD94404

    RD94404 Rookie

    Sep 1, 2009
    3
    is the engine still available?
    reply to : [email protected]
    Roland

     
  25. TridenteFury

    TridenteFury Karting

    Sep 28, 2014
    78
    I confirm, engine has been SOLD and is no longer available...

    Cheers
    Carlito
     

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