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  1. ginoBBi512

    ginoBBi512 Karting

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    I was talking to my mechanic today about the 360 he had in his shop due to the interior coming apart. I knew this was the case with 355s , but not with 360 s and 430s . Ferrari should be ashamed of themselves for using the same crappy system that has these interiors coming unglued . He said it was some kind if paint / adhesive that breaks down in such a short amount of time .It would be funny if it was not so pathetic. SO it looks like my 328 will be the only Ferrari I will own. I cant afford or even want any of the new machines after the 430 . I would have considered a 430 , I have to say I love the glass in the engine lid now that I found out about the crappy interior coming unglued I dont think so.
     
  2. RedNeck

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    You must be talking about the dash leather that suffers from shrinking due to glue degradation, I tore apart my interior, and their was a ton of good adhesive on my carpet.
     
  3. ginoBBi512

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    He mentioned that. along with all the switches coming apart and whatever else its a nightmare and joke all at the same time ridiculous
     
  4. Texas Forever

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    Interiors? These cars have interiors? Funny, I never noticed.
     
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  5. tbakowsky

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    Ferrari is not Ferrari anymore. They are a marketing company who builds cars on the side..
     
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  6. Robb

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    There are always some quirks on all of the F-cars - 328 and older included.

    Taking care of some of them wouldn’t keep me from enjoying all the other positive ownership experiences. Once the items are fixed, it’s likely you don’t have to go through it again. What exotic car has no quirks or items to repair or fix? :D

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  7. paulchua

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    All cars, even Ferrari deteriorate at some point. Some 360s are over 20 years old now. I have a 15-year-old Honda and 9-year-old Toyota that both experienced some form of degradation.

    Perhaps your 360 was exposed to an excessive amount of sun? You mentioned the 328, I've seen similar degradation to leather occur in those models as well when exposed to a lot of sunlight.
     
  8. vrsurgeon

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    My 99 will be 20 this year. Sometimes I wonder what owners do to these cars. It's not Ferrari cheapening things it's owners who don't know how to take care of a car. It's the same with a 911, Mazda, Honda, etc. etc. Some people take care of their car and it's interior and others don't.
    My airbag leather is flush and tight, my dash leather has pulled back, and the bolster on my drivers sport seat is worn and the stitching is loose on that bolster. Otherwise, the stitching is sound and my leather looks good. He might have been talking about the soft touch pain coming off the swtiches, which for the era happens in many European cars. If you take care of it, it will look good. Oh you should consider a 430, when you get one that isn't trashed.. it'll make you realize that Ferrari makes cars that can outdo a minivan. ;)
     
  9. No issues here on a 2001. Car spent half its life in Cali, the other half in Canada.
     
  10. paulchua

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    One of My Ferrari is almost 30 years old and the other is 20 years old with the same leather used in the 360 -- both of the original leather is still great, totally agree much is up to the owner(s) The 456 did have some shrinkage on the backboard - but that's to be expected with the sunlight back there. All of $300 to fix....no biggie.
     
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  11. vrsurgeon

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    My very very indirect contention is that deciding not to get a 430 because a mechanic has one in the shop with a beaten interior (and therefore all are like it) is JUST LIKE the time that I decided not to but a 488 because the reverse button reminded me of The Emperor of Spain third wifes' ivory pen. :)
     
  12. RedNeck

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    I think that a lot of folks hold these cars in such high regard that they are expected to defy the laws of physics...my car is a '99 that turned 20 last month, and even though its not perfect, has still held up better than a lot of the other 1999 cars out there..the 2005 Crossfire I just sold, that had half the miles that my Ferrari does was in worse shape, had sticky buttons, worn paint, etc.

    These cars are just that: cars. Don't expect them to turn into gods just because they are priced that way.
     
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  13. arizonaitalian

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    Let's be real. The so-called "sticky interior" problem is real and very widespread. Its lame. No debate. There is no need to sugar coat it (hmmm, maybe that's what ferrari did to their plastic pieces?). There should be no need to defend it. Ferrari's ain't perfect, never were. Yet...somehow folks aspire to them despite the soft coatings on plastic bits turning to goo. Go figure...;)
     
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  14. ginoBBi512

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    My 328 is 30 years old with 102 k miles and I have nothing on the interior coming apart,( yes the driver seat got worn and I replaced it ) never any motor troubles, or anything else other than routine maintenance , the starter went out at 90 k and the alternator at 100 k . I was just surprised that after the 355 this interior stuff was not corrected. I saw the switches on the 360 s he had in the shop and they were all bleeding that crap that Ferrari used to etch them and whatever else , as well as the 430 he had as well with the same issues. You do not see this kind of stuff coming out of Japan , in my experience . I know Italian exotics have their querks, but the interior should not be one of them in my estimation .
     
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    I've had Alfas do the same thing. I believe there are other marques that suffer with melting soft touch finish.
    My 360 has it a bit but otherwise the dash and seats are almost perfect.
     
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    I agree that Ferrari should not continue to use products it knows will fail in relatively short time frames for the finishes. It seems like Ferrari is only aiming to satisfy the customer through the new car warranty period. It just seems like there should be a good alternative that could be used that is more durable and has a similar touch when new.
     
  17. jtremlett

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    Short space of time? You're talking about 20 years!
     
  18. BT

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    The finish has been known to get tacky / sticky within 10 years if you live in south Florida. That seems short to me.
     
  19. amenasce

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    I think even Enzos and 458s have that issue no? It is really a disgrace that Ferrari did not rectify it one generation in.

    Porsche had that issue with the 997 and i think they fixed it with the 997.2 or 991. I had that issue with my 997 and so far nothing with my 991.
     
  20. 285ferrari

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    We can help with all those sticky issues for reasonable prices. No need to spend a 1/5 of the cars value just to solve the issue.
     
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    Yes, we have done 22 Enzos to date
     
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    In case it has eluded you Ferrari does not care
     
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    I’ve spent the last few days replacing the interior door handles/pulls on my BMW. Going to have to replace the window switch buttons too. It’s not an easy job dismantling it all and getting back together with the same ‘thud’ sound it came from the factory with. Had to have my seat bottoms on my 300zx reupholstered too recently. It’s not just a Ferrari problem.
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  24. Mitch Alsup

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    Not quite:: the dash suffers from owners who don't take care of their leather.
    This is NOT the fault of the leather,
    it is the fault of the owner not taking proper care of the leather.

    Leatherique at least twice a year.
     
  25. mikegr

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    They spend thousands in mechanical parts but they are cheap in plastic.
    Yep that is true
     
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