Sorry if this a repost, didn't find a thread on it:...
Sorry if this a repost, didn't find a thread on it: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Ferrari-355-Challenge-Ferrari-355-Challenge-Car-FRESH-ENGINE-READY-TO-RACE_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ157044QQihZ014QQitemZ330223925189QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW A couple of things on this vehicle caught my eye, first and foremost the battered body panels and the disguising nature of the photography. The front left fender and rear right fender are damaged, the rear right seems significant. Also the fact that they, (Boardwalk Ferrari) chose NOT to note any of the damage in their description is quite convenient. Now, the reason I first wanted to post about this car was the extreme camber on the rear wheels. Are all challenge cars set up with such aggressive negative camber in the rear? I am no suspension guru but it strikes me as counter intuitive to lower the cars footprint in the rear, wouldn't this result in a faster break away of traction and subsequently an increase in over steer?
A real CH car is expected to be beat up a bit.. http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=191694
The '96 challenge rules allowed -4"00' of rear camber and 3"30' front camber. The rear camber should help reduce oversteer. Lowering the car will not change oversteer, but may help lower the center of gravity.
Pretty baby. I wonder what it would take to make the car streetable... I would keep the roll cage and wing, but take off the graphics and install a modest interior. Decent car maybe if at a decent price. Love the wheels - Speedlines, drool...
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Thats very interesting! I guess I wasn't too clear in my first post, but I did not mean lowering the car, but rather causing the rear wheels to have less surface area with the ground due to the camber. (*Of course this would be for off road use only and the following statement is meant merely for abstract thought.) Would it need to be.... I don't think too many people would know the difference between a red 348 and this red 355. I would feel quite confident driving it with 348 plates, and perhaps creating a cover for the dashboard VIN number plate with one matching that of the registered vehicle. Without getting into too much trouble, this has been done successfully.
Vern--Must say your CH is one of the baddest cars I have ever seen--Every time I see it I want a CH wing for my car!!! Damn you!!
See, I was thinking that this is a 1995 OBD I car, so it is far easier making it street legal. M2.7 and some aftermarket high-efficiency cats, you'd be almost there. Now, for the bumpers, lighting and passenger restraints. There is nothing that requires you to have airbags or even mice. It would be do-able. As long as the car meets smog and has the proper equipment, it would be legal. Now how to get around the CA BAR sticker...
I thought the issue was title? I recall Martin at Cavallino selling some he said could not be reg for the street?
Some of the early 355 were converted street cars by the dealer and may still carry a title similar to the 348 CH's. The later cars were factory made and sold with bill of sale only. You would have to check with the seller if this one has a title. Some states will allow registration and title for race cars. I think Verns is registered (Vern correct me if I'm wrong). The legallity of the car based on DOT regs may be in ?. The 355 CH used plexiglass windows, roll cage, and harnesses are not legal on street cars in most states.
The CH had plexiglass windows??? I've never seen this factory option nor did I see this allowed for Challenge specific races. Was this allowed by the promotors in Europe?
No can do. This is a DOT issue. If it didn't come in on a MSO that met the DOT standards for the year of manufacture, you're SOL. You literally have to go through the same certification process that the manufacturer would of had to do. Moreover, if DOT busts you, they can confiscate the car. If this is sometime you want to do, buy a production 355 and covert it to Challenge specs. BTW, for those wondering about the condition of the car, it is a race car. Whatdoya expect? Dale
Look anything is possible, its just a question of how far your willing to step. An easy solution would be to consider how many wrecked 355 are sitting being parted out with no use for their VIN's. Your average DMV worker is no genius and from personal experience/cars registered, I can vouch for this. The door sill VIN, dash board VIN, along with a clear smog, working lights, and seat belts are all you need. If you want to register it there are a multitude of ways to go about accomplishing it that are truly not all that challenging.
You better read the latest issue of Sports Car Market. You might change your mind on pulling VINs. Dale
Hmm, this gets us thinking. What about that factory package for a CH 355 - it was a kit available from the dealer, right? LOL As for SCM, they were talking about title washing. these guys were trying to convert lesser cars into legitimate high end models, as in pedestrian Mustangs to, say Shelby or other models. This situation is where you invest in a wrecked 355 and convert your CH to its title under salvage title. Somewhere along the line you would need a safety inspection at the DMV as well as smog to prove that the car had been "repaired and restored" to the proper configuration. Might be an interesting project if the "buy in" was low enough. On the other hand, I rather try to bring in and convert a 348 Competizione to US specs.
The 95 was the last year with a title, come to SC and get it registered, then transfered....91 348, same deal. Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
