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Discussion in '348/355' started by nishttdawg, Apr 6, 2005.

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  1. nishttdawg

    nishttdawg Karting

    Nov 15, 2003
    62
    Toronto, Ontario
    Hey guys!

    Had a ppi done on a 355 I am looking at buying, and one cyl came back w/ 130psi and 23% leakdown. I have read countless threads on this board and the old f-chat board about this but just wanted to confirm if this is a valveguide prob. or maybe a cracked/broken ring? All other cyl came back w/ 2-3% leakdown. Could it be carbon stuck on the valve not allowing it to seat properly?

    What would you guys do?

    Please help! I want to buy a 355! :)
     
  2. ENZOFORZA

    ENZOFORZA Karting

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  3. ghost

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  4. Rifledriver

    Rifledriver Three Time F1 World Champ

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    Just say no to 23%. Retest it after driving it. If it is cyl 2,3,6,7 it is a probable valve problem.
     
  5. ENZOFORZA

    ENZOFORZA Karting

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    no I hit the wrong button and it said sold and im to lazy to figure out how to fix it. If any mod want to relist for me ill put you in my will. I have a 360F1 incoming and was thinking of selling the 355. Sorry for the thread hijack. Carry on
     
  6. srwhitman

    srwhitman Karting

    Mar 15, 2005
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    Nightdawg - I've been looking too. What were the other cylinders if I may ask? I've heard various things here and there about valve guide problems and that if its a 97 or older and some early 98s (up to a certain assembly number), they may all end up getting the problem sooner or later. May - is the key word here. No one knows for sure but there is an issue with the brass guides which they later changed to steel. I'm currently debating between 2 cars - one which is a 97 that currently does not have a valve guide problem and compression matches closely (but is around 158 average, very nearly zero leakdown) or a 98 that is past the assembly number and does not have the issue. Price is close but its not a no brainer for me for a variety of other reasons (color, options, proximity to my locale).

    Scott
     
  7. nishttdawg

    nishttdawg Karting

    Nov 15, 2003
    62
    Toronto, Ontario
    Scott,

    I have also read the same thing about the 98+ not having the valve guide problems. Apparently a batch of 97's did.

    Can anyone else elighten the situation w/ some knowledge about potential costs? And if it could have just been a screwy test? Has anyone else had this happen and then tested again normally after driving?
     
  8. Dino

    Dino Karting

    Nov 3, 2003
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    San Diego
    I had the same experience. I PPI'ed two different '97's and they both failed the leak down test during my search. I bought a '98 when it passed the leak down.


    Dino
     
  9. BrianC

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    Apr 6, 2004
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    What is the assembly number cutoff on the 98's when valve guide issues seem to be a non-issue?
     
  10. srwhitman

    srwhitman Karting

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    It can be found inside the engine compartment. It is on a small rectangular plate mounted on the driver's side engine compartment shock tower. The plate reads "ASSEMBLY NUMBER XXXXX". The XXXXX number should be equal to or greater than 27689.

    Scott
     
  11. BrianC

    BrianC Formula Junior

    Apr 6, 2004
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    For assembly numbers below 27689, what does that mean? Definite valve guide issues? Possible VG issues?
     
  12. Rifledriver

    Rifledriver Three Time F1 World Champ

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    Best information is that about 20-25% of the cars have had a problem. Valve issues are not confined to the early cars it is just more common.
     
  13. BrianC

    BrianC Formula Junior

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    What should I expect to pay for a leakdown/compression test on a 355?
     
  14. nishttdawg

    nishttdawg Karting

    Nov 15, 2003
    62
    Toronto, Ontario
    So lets say it is a valve problem, what are the potential costs involved? Shouldn't the mechanic have been able to tell from the PPI what it is (valve or rings etc.) with a stethiscope?

    Can just the one cylinder's valves be done alone or do all valves from that head have to be adjusted and redone?
     
  15. nishttdawg

    nishttdawg Karting

    Nov 15, 2003
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    come on guys! ttt
     
  16. ghost

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    Usually done as part of a general Pre-Puchase inspection, which runs about $400 - $500. By itself, I guess you're looking at a couple of hundi.
     

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