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  1. Shorn355

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    Hi All - I am sure there are other threads on this but my question is a bit specific so apologies for any redundancy. I have the pleasure of owning a beautiful 1995 F355 GTS and have owned it since 2011. Like many, the leather on the top of the dash around the vents just under the windshield has shrunk and pulled away from the vents a bit exposing the material underneath.

    The issue is that the rest of the dash and entire leather area is flawless and I believe to be original - simply very well-kept. Question is this => Is it possible - and has anyone had any experience with - being able to correct the issues on top of the dash/around the vents without having to re-do the entire dash? I can't see any obvious separation points or obvious ways to do this but don't particularly want to have the entire dash redone as it is perfect as-is. Not a cost issue really but just a "if it isn't broke why fix it" attitude - in other words I don't want to take a chance on someone screwing up the rest of the perfect dash just to correct the areas around the vents if a more surgical approach is possible.

    Any advice/thoughts/experiences are most appreciated. I can post pics when I visit the car this weekend but hopefully my description can at least generate some feedback.

    As always thanks for taking the time to read this and offer any feedback - Cheers :)
     
  2. ShineKen

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    If I were you, I would contact Kenneth Michaels in Florida for his assessment. You want the best and most careful people touching it.
     
  3. Shorn355

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    Thanks very much for the quick response and reference - Do you know if Kenneth is associated at all with the folks at FMFL? I have friends there and am in Lauderdale quite frequently - Thanks again :)
     
  4. ShineKen

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    I wouldn't know, however, he does have an Instagram and you can contact him there.

    If someone does mess up your dash, you'll have a very hard time getting a matching leather. I'd try to buy a new dash if it got to that point.
     
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  5. Pepsi10

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    I am in your same situation with my ‘97. Everything else looks very good, but just a couple millimeters have pulled away near the cross member supports of the windshield vents.
    This past summer I tried a leather softening agent. After which I clipped a small amount of weight onto the leather tab, extending via a string to the floor, overnight. But it seemed to make no difference.
     
  6. Carmellini

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    It is near impossible to match any leather. Grain and texture from hide to hide are inconsistent, and the ageing and fading adds to the complexity. I should restate: IT IS IMPOSSIBLE to match leather.

    Recently, I needed to recover my airbag panel and requested samples from all the major suppliers and found a "near perfect match" from Veteran Company in LA.
    My interior is black and their SKU is SL-1400. Excellent color match, but more important was the grain and sheen.

    Harry was patient and courteous throughout my many pertinacious (sounds more sophisticated than anal...LOL) calls and emails. They also provide a skiving service for a very reasonable fee. Best of luck.
     
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  7. Shorn355

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    That is definitely an ingenious approach! Sorry it did not work as expected. I wonder if removing the vents and using a bit more weight might extend the leather enough to allow it to be tucked back under the vents when they are re-installed? Just a thought.

    Thanks for the response - Cheers :)
     
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  8. Shorn355

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    Thanks VERY much for the response and reference! My interior is also black so this might be an option. The local upholstery company Ferrari of Denver uses is Autoweave and I have seen some excellent work from them so perhaps IF they can surgically just address the top area around the vents this leather source could be excellent.

    I guess at this point unless there is a way to surgically address the top/vent areas without doing the whole dash I will probably just leave it as-is and plan/budget to do the whole interior (dash/seats/door panels/rear deck) in one fell swoop since the other areas are in decent shape but definitely showing some wear.

    Also I will add "pertinacious" to my vocabulary :) :) :cool:
     
  9. yelcab

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    What you are seeing is the loss of moisture in the old leather which causes it to shrink from its original size. The edge of the leather is pulled back over the top of the dash exposing the underlaying material and sometimes the staples used by the factory. The dash comes in two pieces: top and bottom and can be separated from each other. The top portion (normally black) can be re-covered with new one-piece leather along with its airbag cover. The bottom part (sometimes black sometimes tan) normally never needs recovering.

    The better solution is to find a spare top piece, have it re-covered, and then install it in place of the old bad one. That way, your car is off the road for just 1 day.

    I have bought a top piece for this purpose on my two 355 and have done both dashes. The extra top dash piece is sitting above my bookshelf collecting dust. If you are interested in acquiring it, PM me.
     
  10. Carmellini

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    Dashboards are naturally susceptible to problems/issues. By far, of all the dashes I have repaired/replaced, the 355 is the easiest. You don't really need to be that handy; There are many threads showing procedure. I empathize with your desire to keep it as original as possible, but I don't think you are going to be satisfied with anything less than perfection. Get some samples from Harry @ Veteran. Call him and explain grain and sheen. They are a materials supplier, and not an interior shop so doubt he could help you with techinique, but no harm is asking anyway.
     
  11. yelcab

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    But you do need to be ... daring.
     
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  12. Shorn355

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    Wow - VERY appreciative of the information and offer! I plan to chat with Autoweave next week and will discuss your recommended solution - certainly makes sense to me. If I go this route I will definitely PM you to acquire the spare top piece you have and utilize the reference from @Carmelli to source the leather to recover it. That way if I provide the top piece and the leather to Autoweave I am just leveraging their service/talent for the recovering and replacement.

    THANKS very much for all the responses and information - Cheers :)
     
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