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355 door panel removal - Help please!

Discussion in '348/355' started by GordonF355, Apr 19, 2006.

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  1. GordonF355

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    Ok, I know that the stock stereo absolutely sucks big time and that the "real" sound system on a ferrari is the exhaust... However, for those times stuck in traffic etc... I am upgrading the stock speakers and head unit. I know that the speakers are 6 1/2" + tweeter. How the heck to I get the door panel off to access the speakers? I am fairly handy and already have and aftermarket head unit in there so I will change out the speakers myself. Anyone have any insight on this matters? pics would help.

    P.S.: Yes, I did use search function and read all the posts but still need help. I am sure others need to know this too!

    thanks alot
    gordon
     
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  2. Monteman

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  3. GordonF355

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    thanks, just what I was looking for! I will tear my car apart tonight and get busy! may even take some pics.
    gordon
     
  4. GordonF355

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    Well, I actually ended up taking the WHOLE door panel off to access the door speakers... This was the only way. It took me about 2 1/2 hours taking it off and installing the door speaker and tweeter for one door. THere was some time spent on this door reassembling things in the wrong order and having to do things over which will not happen (hopefully!) with the other door.
    After finally getting the door panel off the door, I take out the speaker and to my surprise - it was already an aftermarket speaker in there - Boston Acoustics. It looked kinda small and I figured out it was only 5 1/4" and not 6 1/2" what it should be. Then after all the trouble I went through taking the damn door panel off, I wasn't going to not change out the speakers so I put in some nice Infinity component speakers for $200 from Best Buy. I have only one side done and it sounds a bit better so far... Tomorrow I will try to swap out the crappy aftermarket head unit the previous owner installed, with a new Alpine unit. I took some pics of the door panel removal and could post them tomorrow if anyone needs them
    gordon
     
  5. CarCrazy

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    Thanks for the post ... I just had a right door speaker go (4/20)and was wondering the exact same thing. Wasn't sure any of these posts really said how to do it but I printed everything out and I am going to try tonight.
     
  6. Monteman

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    I wish I had better news but I did the speaker swap and the head unit and bottom line.....it still sucks. There's no substitute for larger speakers and a subwoofer. Unfortunately, there really isn't anywhere to put those without hacking up the interior. I'd love feedback from anyone that has had better luck or found a way to shoe horn larger speakers in.
     
  7. GordonF355

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    You are partially right on this one... After installing the Alpine radio and Infinity speakers the stere sounds better, but yeah with the top down, capristo screaming, you cannot hear alot, let alone the radio... THere has to be a way to put a sub or 2 in there without muffing up the interior... Sub on passenger footwell is out of the question. Sub in front trunk - not sure if you would hear/feel it in main cabin. Subs on rear parcel shelf behind seat (like Chaa has- 2 8" JL subs) looks to be the best choice here...
    Anyone else have any ideas????
    gordon
     
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    #9 AVMotorsport, Apr 24, 2006
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    Hi Gordon, guys,

    I happen to be in the final stages of my stereo install, replacing the door speakers and the dash tweeters, and decided on installing an 8" sub in the passenger footwell. Don't discount this location just yet, especially if all you have is an occasional passenger and able to tolerate a loss of around 3.5" of legroom. For me, it was an acceptable compromise, as I really did not want to mess up the interior. It really is not that bad, just have the passenger seat positioned all the way back.

    I constructed a custom cabinet for the sub, to fit exactly into the footwell. I bolted the whole unit using wing nuts loctite-d to long threaded studs, which in turn is bolted to two nuts I epoxied to the fuse box cover. I purchased a used fuse box cover on ebay for this purpose, so I don't have to drill into my prestine original cover. So the install is completely reversible, without leaving a trace. I can easily remove (<2 min) the sub enclosure (if say I really have a long legged passenger, or if I don't want the extra weight, etc.) replace the rubber mat and it is back to original. And if push comes to shove, I can easily reinstall the original cover and it is like nothing happened.

    I already had the components just lying in my garage, taken off another car I had just sold. But if I were to buy another sub, I would explore the Earthquake units mentioned above, as you can make a shallower enclosure and gain more legroom.

    Here's my component list, not necessarily top of the line, but definitely world's apart from the OEM system. They are also about 3-4 years old, as I have said they were taken off another car:

    Diamond Audio component speakers with 6.5" mid-bass, and 1" dome tweeters
    Diamond Audio crossover
    Eclipse 8" long throw sub w/a 3" voice coil, 200W (http://www.daliracing.com/v666-5/catalog/toys/more_stereo_kit_components_eclipse.cfm)
    Precision Audio 400W 4-channel amp, with the rear channels bridged to supply 200W to the sub
    RioCar/Empeg Mark 2a headunit, with a 30gig hard drive (my favorite!!) (http://www.empeg.com/)

    Some tips on the construction of the sub enclosure:

    1. Subs perform better the bigger the enclosure, but in our application, we are extremely limited. So just make it the biggest possible size you can in the space available. There are formulas that you can follow (see the links below if you are so inclined) but since we don't have much of a choice here, I think the key is choosing a sub that will have decent performance even with a smaller enclosure. Don't even try to achieve neighborhood-rattling bass unless you want to dump the passenger seat altogether <g>.

    2. A sealed enclosure is easier to construct, but you have to make sure that the enclosure is totally sealed. If you are more experienced, you can dabble with tuned ports (aka bass reflex), but I think it is too much trouble. Check out the links for more detailed explanations.

    3. 1/2" MDF (medium density fiberboard) is the most ideal material to use, and it is easy to work with, compared to ply wood. But it is not the lightest. Combined with your sub, you can easily add 20 lbs. I only weigh 143 lbs., so I figure I am already a bit ahead of the average owner (Ha-ha! No offense intended!). Now that I have the mold, I am considering making a carbon fiber version of the enclosure, but that would be another chapter.

    My last step is to make some sort of cover/foot rest to hide and protect the sub. I am thinking of having an aluminum panel CNC'ed with holes, in much the same style as the gas and brake pedals. Similar to the aftermarket aluminum panels that I have seen elsewhere.

    I think the sound of my system is really good. Like I said, it is not earth rattling bass, and will probably not win any sound-off competitions, but at moderate volumes the sound is very detailed with excellent bass extension. The head unit also has a 20-channel parametric equalizer, and a bunch of other neat features, that allowed me to finely calibrate the sound, using test tones and a sound level meter.

    Anyway, here are some links if you care to dig into it a bit more, and some photos. The carpeting I used to finish up the sub enclosure isn't an exact match, but when I put the cover plate on, it shouldn't matter.

    http://www.the12volt.com/
    http://www.termpro.com/articles/buildbox.html
    http://www.termpro.com/articles/subwoof.html

    Hope this helps. Happy to answer any questions.

    Cheers,

    Alex
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