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  1. Premoto1

    Premoto1 Formula Junior

    Jun 6, 2013
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    Tyler Winslow
    Yesterday, I took delivery of a 1999 F1 Spider. Prior to delivery the F1 pump was replaced with the 360 unit and adapter. Work was performed by a shop with a very good reputation. They road tested the car a number of times and had no trouble with it. When I got the car I drove it to get fuel and had no problems. I then drove approximately another ten plus miles without issue. I parked the car, ran and errand, came back, started the car, and it wouldn't go in to gear. The gearbox malfunction light flashes continuously and won't go off. I checked the fluid level, o.k. I removed the relay and checked its connections. It did not look like it got hot but I installed another anyway. This had no affect. I was also told there is a fuse(s) for the F1 system. From what I can tell they are the two that are behind the panel in the passenger footwell area. They are 20 and 40 amp units. They look good. Of additional note, the amber suspension malfunction light came on when I start the car up and it was idling. It was not doing this prior to the transmission problem. This light came on and stayed lit yesterday when this problem first occurred. However, as of this morning, the suspension light does not come on but the gearbox light still flashes. The shop that did the work is quite far away. The car is now located in Ohio. I'm going to check a few things. If I don't get anywhere I'm going to send it back to New England. Any suggestions are greatly appreciated.
     
  2. phrogs

    phrogs F1 Veteran
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    #2 phrogs, Aug 6, 2015
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    the suspension light will come on after 2-3 starts and the car hasnt moved.

    Make sure your tail lights are working if the fuse is blown or maybe not a good connection it also will cause issues.


    Are your Doors all closed both front and rear bonnets have sensors they must be closed or it won't shift.

    Silly as they wont blow open no leading edge in the air stream but whatever check that real quick just open and close everything to be sure.

    When my car was delivered it started and backed up but then didn't want to shift. It ended up being the front bonnet wasn't latched down all the way.
     
  3. greyboxer

    greyboxer F1 World Champ

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    #3 greyboxer, Aug 6, 2015
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    Might a battery off reset be worth a try ?

    Most often the issues very soon into ownership are partly due to unfamiliarity rather than actual problems (for example as noted above fussy bonnet/door sensors)

    Now building on this theme can you confirm you have read the manual specifically the part that says no control input will be accepted whilst it is performing the check and flashing for approx 30 seconds and that this does not apply here ?
     
  4. Premoto1

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    The first thing I checked were doors, trunk, and hood. Everything is latched/closed. However, it certainly doesn't mean a door/latch switch couldn't be bad. I've not yet checked the brake lights.

    Thanks!
     
  5. WATSON

    WATSON Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Any beeps? Or just the flashing light?

    Can you hear the pump running? You should be able to.
     
  6. WATSON

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    BTW, please try this:

    Put your foot on the brake
    Turn the key to position II(do not start the car)
    Wait a moment.
    With foot still on the brake, turn key back off
    With foot still on brake, start the car.

    Sometimes the sensors get messed up if you shut the car off and it is still moving...this resets it.
     
  7. Premoto1

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    No beeps. The light just flashes.

    Tried your suggestion but no change.

    Can anyone verify that the two fuses in the passenger footwell are for the F1 system? They both look fine. I'm just trying to determine if I've found the right fuses for inspection or that I should keep looking.

    As to the pump running. I hear a very feint electrical pump noise when I turn the key to position two. I assumed its a fuel pump but it very may well be the F1 pump.
     
  8. Premoto1

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    I can hear the pump running when I turn the key to position 2. It certainly doesn't seem to be a power supply issue. My feeling is that the solenoid is not opening up to put the car in to gear. Whether this is because there's something wrong with that unit or it's not being told to do that, I'm not sure. Any more ideas before I send it back up East?
     
  9. tr512

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    If your F1 light keeps flashing it has nothing to do with the doors or hood not being closed.It means that you have a pressure problem.
     
  10. WATSON

    WATSON Two Time F1 World Champ
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    You need to verify the pump is running. No beeps + constant flashing means no pressure. If the pump is indeed running and you are not building pressure something else is up and I am not sure what it would be.

    The fuses in the footwell are for the pump. One 20 amp & one 40 amp fuse. The relay that operates the pump is under the cover behind the drivers seat...I THINK it is the middle one.

    Yup.
     
  11. Premoto1

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    Thanks for all the ideas, folks. Sending it back to New England.
     
  12. taz355

    taz355 F1 Veteran
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    As said previous if you can here the pump running then you are not building pressure. The problem will be mechanical, either air in system and needs to be bled, lack of oil, hole i. Hydraulic hose, motor running pump not pumping, or accumulator leaking and needs to be tightened. Should see a leak or the pump is not pumping.
     
  13. taz355

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    These are all easy things to check yourself.
     

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