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355 higher idle with AC compressor on

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  1. Carmellini

    Carmellini Formula Junior

    Jul 16, 2019
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    Idle is a bit higher with AC compressor engaged: Perhaps a little more RPM is normal, but mine seems
    a bit too high. What's the norm?
     
  2. Portofino

    Portofino Formula Junior

    Sep 17, 2011
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    Yorkshire UK / Switzerland/ Antibes France
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    Portofino
    Normally drops due to extra load .

    Can you post some numbers of your idles .
     
  3. JoeCab

    JoeCab Formula Junior
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    May 27, 2014
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    Colorado
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    Joe C
    Correct, but at the same time the Idle Control Valve should get a signal from the ECU to allow more bypass air to combat this drop - and sometimes this results in a higher idle than without the compressor engaged. But it really should only be ~100 rpm higher than normal. If it's really high something may be off.
     
  4. m.stojanovic

    m.stojanovic F1 Rookie
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    Dec 22, 2011
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    Miroljub Stojanovic
    On the 348, the idle speed does not drop when the AC compressor is engaged. In fact, the speed drops a bit momentarily (for a second or so) and then goes back to normal, i.e. to what it was before the compressor engagement. On compressor disengagement, the idle speed goes slightly up momentarily and then settles down to normal. This is controlled by the engine ECUs via the Idle Control Valves (ICV). I recorded the PWM signal on the ICV before and after the compressor coming "on". It can be seen that the PWM duty cycle is increased at the time of the compressor engagement to compensate for the added load on the engine thus keeping the idle speed constant.

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    The engine ECU will also compensate in a similar manner for the effect on the idle speed by added load coming from the alternator which is especially felt when the two cooling fans are switched "on".
     
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