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355 OIL CHANGE QUESTION

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  1. cavlino

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    That is for sure, same goes for spoiling a perfectly good Coffee with milk or sugar as far as I'm concerned.
     
  2. Futureman

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    Fixed it for you, Dave.
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  3. Futureman

    Futureman Formula 3

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    Finally...someone who understands that those commi martinis are not the way to go. Gin all the way.
     
  4. Futureman

    Futureman Formula 3

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    This thread reminds me of something. Oh wait, now I remember!

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5B0xe_iaTjs]Sideshow Bob steps on rakes for ten minutes - YouTube[/ame]
     
  5. bmxracer50

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    I use a Pella extractor to suck *most* of the oil from the tank, then pull the plug at the bottom to get the rest. It helps slow down the flow of oil when the plug is pulled and minimizes the "is my pan going to overfill" factor.
    Yes, I'm keepin' it real with the cheap open top oil change pan, but it cuts down on the splashing and is a big, easy target to hit when the draining oil stream gets to a drizzle and wind seems to kick up a few knots the second you turn your back on it. I've tried many oil drain pans and keep coming back to the trusty 14" 8qt pan. The only thing better, IMHO, is the big funnel type used at service stations, but the height requires a lift or a pit.
     
  6. davehelms

    davehelms F1 Rookie

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    "Most of the oil" being drained, flushes out the debris that settles in the bottom of the tank. Rethink your theory, there is method to the madness regardless of how messy it is.

    If all else fails, consider it an Italian method of rust proofing the chassis, something of a self preservation mode if you will.
     
  7. Challenge

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    Yep. I love the placement of the oil tank drain plug relative to the subframe!
     
  8. GTO Joe

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    Quote If all else fails, consider it an Italian method of rust proofing the chassis, something of a self preservation mode if you will.


    No no no, the British auto industry patented this method long before the Italians. :)
     
  9. davehelms

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    You will find no argument from me! I have a TR3 sitting in the trailer, LEAK FREE, only because the engine block is on the mill in the garage. Even that is a not factual... there is a trail on the floor from the steering box horking out its contents.
     
  10. mpodgor

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    Thanks. I love the replies! Now that I have sobered up I realized that was a really stupid thought. I need another Mobil 1 bath.
     
  11. mpodgor

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    Theoretically once the car has cooled way down. Most of the oil is in the engine pan yes. BUT....there is some remaining in the reservoir. I was just trying to figure out an alternative to a MOBIL ONE shampoo/bath. Dig?
     
  12. bobzdar

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    I usually let mine sit at least overnight before draining the oil (goal is to make sure as much oil as possible has drained into the pan). Last time I changed the oil, maybe an ounce or two came out of the reservoir and the rest was in the pan, not even worth pulling the plug imo.
     
  13. mpodgor

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    Italian Rust proofing. I rather like that.
     
  14. davehelms

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    Well played Michael, just having fun at your expense.

    Make that a Redline bath, or Royal Purple bath or any High Quality oil bath. The day that Mobil 1 changed to "Extended Life", it became no better than any Dino oil off the shelf and just relied on past marketing to sell it. Spend the extra money and get High Quality oil for a hot running, high reving engine.

    Engine "warm", rear end a little higher than the front, pull the plug(s!) and walk away for a half hour to clean yourself up..... simple as that.
     
  15. mpodgor

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    The oil that was in there last time I drained it was Mobil One from a major. Ihence put in 5W-40 Royal Purple which seemed to be what folks were recomending. Time for another oil change. Oh joy.
     
  16. TrojanFan

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    So is the consensus 5w-30 or 5w-40 on the Royal Purple or Redline?
     
  17. Dave rocks

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  18. davehelms

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    I suggest following Ferrari's weight classification for a given Modern model. A caveat like that must be given because you need to put it in the context of the available technology at the time, oil has changed a great deal since the 60's! Beyond that, what brand to use is a personal choice.

    Make no mistake, what brand Ferrari considers the flavor of the month has little to do with Quality and everything thing to do with how big their investment is into the F1 program.

    Do you own tests, years ago we learned that some of the high quality 5-40's were giving us vastly higher hot pressures at idle than some of the marginal 15-50's. Hydraulic lifters can be somewhat picky on what they are fed. No different than a kid pushed to eat Beats, quickly they will develop a method to reject it.

    In a number of cases some of the smaller boutique "Racing Oil" companies are not forced to follow the same EPA guidelines as the mass produced consumer brands. This can be very good.... or bad, experiment with different brands while keeping a log of the results.
     

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