Ken, I didn't want to muck up the F355 Market thread any further but this is an appropriate thread to post this... Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login When I purchased my car ten years ago, it came with a monograph prepared by David Seibert, Ferrari Challenge Administrator (1994-2007), for its previous owner. Ken, I know you're a stickler for detail. You can add this information to your files. Mr. Seibert made an error in transcribing the serial number in his introduction; ZFFPR41Z5S0100330 is supposed to be ZFFPR41A5S0100330. He had it correctly written on the cover.
98673 = Silver FNA F355 Challenge ironically raced as car #1. Owned by Ferrari CEO Gian Luigi Buitoni. 98674 = Yellow FNA F355 Challenge also ironically raced as car #2. Robb Report themed. This car was reserved for “Guest and celebrity” drivers. Once driven by Paul Newman. Car is owned by FNA. *There is a BAT Yellow 355 Challengemimicking this car’s theme. Not original form.98674 is the true original. There you have it folks. These are the first two U.S-delivered Ferrari F355’s and are indeed F355 Challenge cars. Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
Could it be possible the other 2 355’s might have registered in 95, but not prepped in time for competition? Image Unavailable, Please Login
Right, Ken. You're posting the cars that registered for the 1995 North American Ferrari Challenge Series. The registration deadline was early in 1995. Not all the cars that registered were ready in time for the race schedule that year. Go through the qualifying and race results for 1995. You'll see which cars qualified and raced at each venue.
I own Euro Berlinetta #105027 since few weeks who is an original Swiss car Nero Carbonio with Rosso interior. Unfortunately someone ( who ? ) recorded it in the registry as a Red Challenge car ! Any evidence but web registry are sometime "light". I sent ( one more today ) a message to change, will see if change will be done
Figured I’d post my findings here as well. https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/threads/f355-market.487947/page-1011 I found an old post from 2004. Someone from Europe posted somewhat detailed informatiom regarding Ferrari region allocation in 1999 and 2000. https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/threads/which-country-has-the-most-ferraris.4525/page-6 “In year 2000, the production of Ferrari was 4072, distributed like this: 1111 for USA/Canada 608 for Germany 462 for UK 418 for Italy 277 for Japan 231 for Switzerland 199 for France 105 for Belgium 84 for Spain 75 for Australia 10 for NZ Do not have other numbers, especially Holland is missing. 1999 and a total of 3775 cars, I have these facts: 1003 for USA/Canada 620 for Germany 453 for UK ? for Italy 263 for Japan 219 for Switzerland ? for France 73 for Australia 56 for South Africa” Using the 1999 year for the closest basis for 95-99, 1003/3775 = 26.5% for U.S and Canada. Data from 2012 shows Canada is allocated roughly 2.7% and 25% for U.S. I suppose that’s where people get the standard 28% estimate. Unfortunately, I didn’t count Canadian cars or South American cars. There’s actually quite a bit of them. If Canada/South America is roughly 3%, that leaves the U.S with about 23.5% allocation. Let’s say it’s 24%. The Registry lists 191 94 355’s (non-U.S designation). Let’s assume there’s 265 of them in actuality. That leaves 11,000 355’s worldwide between 95-99 (U.S only received 95 355’s and up) U.S 355 allocation estimate = 24% of 11,000 = 2,640 cars. Here are the number of U.S cars (No Canada or South America) I counted in the Registry Spiders = 1473 GTB/S = 942 (includes challenge cars) Total = 2415 U.S 355’s in the Registry. That’s 91.5% of U.S estimate. Was I close or what?? So there’s really only about 225 U.S cars missing from the Registry. I broke down the data even further by year as I was able to find Ferrari’s production total numbers. I’ll save the finer details for another day, but I believe 99% of the 95 & 99 are accounted for. The missing cars would be in 96, 97, and 98 with 98 having the most cars missing. The two cars I found on BAT were 98 cars. My guess is there’s roughly a coin flip chance a 98 car shows up in the Registry. In short, most of the U.S cars are already accounted for in the Registry.
I started a thread on locating the missing 355’s from the Registry. Please post them here if you do come across one not already listed. https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/threads/missing-355s-u-s-from-the-355-registry.664766/ Hopefully, the missing thread makes it easier for Rob @285ferrari to complete the U.S listing, which would be a fantastic accomplishment.
Figured I post this here while my memory is fresh. Here’s the make-up of the 18 U.S Spec GTS’: 6 Rosso Corsa ( 2 tan , 4 black interior) *one being a former @INTMD8 car 6 Yellow/Black 2 Silver 1 Black/Tan 1 White 1 Blue 1 mystery spec. Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
Here's @INTMD8 's former 1999 GTS. Red/Black. Contrast red stitching. Shields. Red Calipers. Proper Ferrari/Sony head unit. https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/threads/f355-market.487947/page-800#post-148198206 Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
F355 GTB chassis # 107569 Mileage 24,800 Exterior Blu Le Mans Transmission Manual Interior Black Leather, Blue Carpet Image Unavailable, Please Login https://thecultivatedcollector.com/stock/1997-ferrari-f355/83
Is there anywhere else on the chassis other than the VIN tag and stamping on the arm above the engine that can identify an actual car? can it be done via the build number on the engine cradle? We have an early 2.7 355 challenge chassis which have had both the above removed/ground off as a result of an insurance claim many years ago, it would be good to try to trace its history before the accident if possible. It was a LHD red euro example that at some point prior to the accident was repainted black if that jogs anyones memory. Apparently the crash occurred on a track day and the driver had to be cut out due to neck pain. the story was he was fine after. Also does anyone have experience in x raying or whatever to the ground off area as I understand the stamping can leave a ghost in the metal below even when the stamped part is gone?
Does it still have the assembly number plaque on the left of the engine bay? I'm not sure what you mean by "build number on the engine cradle"? A car can be identified by the assembly number or the engine number (assuming both are the original numbers for the car). It should also have the chassis number etched into each piece of window glass, if that is original.
Its a bare shell we picked up from a breaker as a buck for another project, so everything is gone, I meant the chassis ID number stamped on the right hand side outrigger that attaches to the engine cradle, the metal plate is still welded on the outrigger but the numbers are ground off. We also have an engine cradle with an assembly number tag on it (which I meant by build number), but that was from another example. Given this was a challenge spec car it piqued my curiosity as to which one it was.
98674. Started life as the Robb Report yellow challenge car. Later reported to be painted purple towards the end of the 90’s. I was not able to track down pics of this change… until now. This is most likely the reason the BAT 97 challenge car decided to take on the “look” of car #2, since car#2 had already changed colors. Attached are pictures from a rare challenge brochure showing silver car #1 and car #2 in purple form. Once again, these are the first two 355’s (challenge form) brought into the country by FNA; placing my car (#3) as the first street 355 in the country . Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
