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  1. spiderscott

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    #1 spiderscott, Sep 5, 2018
    My 360CS developed a bad bearing on the rear left. Ferrari seem to have cleverly sealed the wheel bearing within the him so the £10 bearing now costs £700 to replace ..... or so I thought !!

    Realising the bearing was shot on my rear his I purchased a new one. Have gone through the motions of removing the old one. This has proved to be a slight nightmare as the central bolt holding the hub to driveshaft end has sheered of the thread so I am also having to replace a driveshaft now (on order)

    However one thing that surprised me and was unexpected is while removing the hub it fell apart in two, not exactly sure why it did this but now wondering how hard it would be to do this again and replace just the bearing next time ?

    Its possible mine was just so shot that it fell apart ?
     
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    #4 spiderscott, Sep 5, 2018
    The question is, has anyone been able to change just the £10 bearing on one of these hubs ?

    BTW the part is the same on all 4 corners so price is expensive especially if you need to do more than one.
     
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    #5 brian.s, Sep 5, 2018
    Yep, they do that.
    Yep, they're expensive, and no one has yet found a match, the ABS speed sensor is critical, easily disturbed.
     
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    #6 spiderscott, Sep 5, 2018
    Cheers Brian

    Yes I was aware of the speed sensor and how sensitive it is. The sensor is also different from 430 to 360, but I believe the hub is the same ?


    When i have finished replacing the new hub and get some spare time, I will pull this old one apart, upload some pictures and see if its possible.
     
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    #7 360trev, Sep 5, 2018
    They can be split and put back together again, they are a press fit and hub nut keeps them retained.

    ... I recall race teams on the 360 and F430 challenge series used to regularly split the hubs, inspect flanges for bearing damage and replace the grease. Then reuse them. This prolonged the lifespan quite a bit. I remember it was Castrol wheel bearing grease and it was red. Worked really well. Normally you only get damage if dust and dirt work their way in...
     
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    #8 spiderscott, Sep 5, 2018
    Trev you guru, I knew you would have the answer buddy :D

    In which case I will attempt to rebuild this hub and keep it as a spare.
     
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    #9 Swallowtail, Dec 15, 2024
    I realize this thread is now 20 years old and Scott has come to some fame by now (at least in YouTube circles). Still, I've been wondering the same and couldn't find any more info on the topic. Hast anyone been able to replace just the bearing?

    BR Andy
     
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    #10 rizzo308, Dec 15, 2024
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    Bearings are 11 mm OD and easy to source. I did my bearings 10 yrs ago and yes they were as dry as a nuns virginia as you would expect. Just replaced all the bearings in a friends car. The ABS sensor you can gentle tap off with a flat hed s/driver when you strip the bearing down slight issue removing both seals they will distort a wee bit when you try and pry them out no biggi, as they are not under pressure just bend them back into shape. Also the bearing carrier is plastic and is 20 + yrs old so be carful of that you don't wanna break that. Gud luk
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    #12 Swallowtail, Dec 16, 2024
    Wow, thanks a lot! I honestly did not expect such a quick and positive feedback! Any chance you still know the exact bearing type needed? I would like to source them in advance. Did you mean 110mm?
     
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    #14 Swallowtail, Dec 16, 2024
    Ah, now I see! You replaced only the balls but not the race. From my understanding, the raceway surfaces are the most prone to wear in a bearing. Did you observe any signs of wear on the balls from your old bearing?
     
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    No visible wear sighted.
     

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