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360/430 has more accident??

Discussion in '360/430' started by pmotoring, Nov 11, 2009.

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  1. pmotoring

    pmotoring Formula Junior

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    Just wondering about that...???
     
  2. GrigioGuy

    GrigioGuy Splenda Daddy
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    They're the majority of Ferraris on the road today, so of course the # of wrecks with those models will be higher than other models.
     
  3. zippyslug31

    zippyslug31 Formula 3

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    Don't wish ill-will on anyone, but for every one of these that meets a tree.... mine just goes up a tiny bit on the "rarity scale".

    Honestly, what are we talking about? Well under 1% that have been destroyed?
    They clearly are going to have much more media attention so it just seems like more have been crashed.
     
  4. fc2

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    If your question was really "Which Ferrari has more accidents, the 360 or the F430"... then I'd say, all else being equal, the 360.

    Why? Electronics. There greater levels and degrees of traction control on the F430. When I had my 360 it was either all on or all off. The F430 let's you dial-in a variety of "programs" to keep your front-end pointing forward.
     
  5. Skidkid

    Skidkid F1 Veteran
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    Yea, they have to get busy and cars a BUNCH more cars. Go bad drivers!
     
  6. FerrariDublin

    FerrariDublin F1 Rookie

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    I agree your sentiments here - the 360 system does seem to be a bit on/off only. I thought "Sport" was supposed to leave systems on but just allow a greater latitude of slip, spin, whatever before engaging but I find it pretty much turns systems Off and makes the car a real handful in the wet if pressing on.

    Do you know what exactly is supposed to happen under "Sport"?
     
  7. TexasMike

    TexasMike F1 World Champ

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    The last time I saw a thread like this the OP had just totaled his Ferrari. If that's the case here, I'm glad to hear the OP is okay.
     
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  9. TheMayor

    TheMayor Ten Time F1 World Champ
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    I don't think it's a fair question. It assumes the accident is always the Ferrari's fault.
     
  10. boraville

    boraville Formula Junior

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    Timely thread. Totaled my 360 Modena three weeks ago. Padding through the gears going around a sharp turn. I think old tires were largely to blame. Mind you the tires had almost all of the tread left on them but had lost their stickyness.

    Replacing with either a 430 Spyder or Murcielago Roadster.
     
  11. FerrariDublin

    FerrariDublin F1 Rookie

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    Very sorry to hear of your misfortune. However, albeit with loss of no claims discount on your insurance, it seems like you're looking forward to a pretty positive outcome :)

    Had you full traction engaged at the time?
     
  12. CyclingPeaks

    CyclingPeaks Formula Junior

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    Sorry to hear as well. Glad insurance is covering it.
    That is one of the worst sickening feelings ever.... when you have lost it and nothing is going to save it and imminent destruction is about to occur. I totalled mine two years ago on a wet road in a curve and wasn't going that fast at all(less than 70).

    Bottom line, if you have to drive your car in the wet, do so very slowly. Pretend you are driving in the snow. Seriously.

    Hunter
     
  13. boraville

    boraville Formula Junior

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    Guys,

    Thank you so much for the kind words. There really are some great folks on this site!

    I was amazed how little it took to total the car. Saddly, I probably got more from insurance than I would have gotten had I sold the car in our current financial climate. I still have a 360 spider left. My biggest dilema now is 430 or murcielago. I know, we shoud all be faced with such decsions. I will always have a Ferrari but I am leaning towards a Lambo to compare. However, every Ferrari dealer has told me no comaprison. And no one buys a Lambo once they've owned a Ferrari. I PM'd one of our memeber who stated they have both, but never heard back.

    Any thoughts?


    One notch for the 430 is Ferrari of N.E. stated they would put me on the 458 list if I purchase a 430 from them.
     
  14. Modenafan

    Modenafan F1 World Champ
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    I agree. The 430 is a much easier car to balance.
     
  15. tazandjan

    tazandjan Three Time F1 World Champ
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    The 360 only has traction control operated through the digital throttle. The 430 has stability control, which offers the normal driver more intervention in case things go wrong or he makes a mistake.

    On the 360 the Sport mode provides for quicker F1 shifts, stiffens up the shock absorbers, and gives lower intervention levels for the traction control.

    The 430 system is much more complicated, including an E-diff, and makes the car generally safer for the average driver, even with the increase in torque.

    Taz
    Terry Phillips
     

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