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360/430 obsolete challenge cars?

Discussion in 'Challenge/GT Cars/Track' started by 335s, Jul 26, 2013.

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  1. 335s

    335s Formula Junior

    Jan 17, 2007
    870
    SF Bay Area
    Full Name:
    T. Monma
    In the racing thats done with these cars-seemingly mostly on the east coast-as an engine builder...: I'm VEWRY curious...
    What are the restrictions on these NON-Ferrari administered "racing leagues"/events?

    ENFORCED CC/ Displacement limits, seem obvious..but, "what else" can you do to heads, intakes, pistons, runners, headers, and ECU's "maps" to hop up the motor for more power?
    Whats "legal", so to speak?
    Is this "gentlemans scouts honr" sort of thing? Are there displacement inspections?
    Is it "anything goes?"(5 liter 430 engines with 775hp?)
    Do guys spend money on 600-700 horsepower engines with lifespans measured in hours as oppossed to 4-5000 miles?

    this stuff doesn't exist here on west coast but seems quite popular on east coast, so info is strictly rumors in general...

    all answers appreciated, PMs are also fine if annonymity is needed!
    CIAO!
     
  2. 335s

    335s Formula Junior

    Jan 17, 2007
    870
    SF Bay Area
    Full Name:
    T. Monma
    this silence has-beleive it or not-completely answered ALL of my questions...odd as that might seem....
     
  3. johnhoughtaling

    johnhoughtaling Formula 3

    Nov 6, 2002
    2,113
    New Orleans
    Full Name:
    John William H.
    #3 johnhoughtaling, Aug 6, 2013
    Last edited: Aug 6, 2013
    Challenge Club Racing (CCR), is the 355-430 Ferrari Challenge Series you are asking about. There are currently over 70 Ferrari challenge owners in the series. Grids are often 25 plus ferrari challenge cars (as high as 42) You are correct that it runs mostly on the east coast. However, we have plans to expand to the west coast first with exibition races (possibly in 2014) and then a full region series on the East and West Coast (likely 2015). The vision is that there will be an east and west cost region championships that will be decided in a national race. The organization began with exhibition races in 2009-2010, with its first championship in 2011 and each year since.

    To answer your question, the rules are posted on Challenge Club Racing. The modifications are very limited from stock. No internal engine modes at all or any other modifications from the factory challenge spec, with few exceptions that are mostly geared to making the cars safer or more cost efficient to run. ECU or header/ exhaust are allowed but carry weight penalty. Wing and splitter is allowed. The rules are designed to favor stock challenge cars in an effort to preserve them and keep the cars even (the idea is that the full performance of a stock Ferrari challenge car is out of the realm of 99.5% of experienced non-professionals.)

    HSR is the sanctioning body that polices the rules and cars are weighed. The series strikes a pretty good balance of enforcing regulations and keeping the series run at a reasonable budget. Cars are not being broken down for inspections each race, but in the off season and at odd times we have had engine inspection reports on top drivers, teams and drivers must certify and disclose any modifications, and anyone is open to protest. It is an arrive and drive series with teams fielding multiple cars so the cars and drivers are well know to each other and the teams, and they are very close. It's run as a vintage racing league. It's not as competitive as the factory Ferrari challenge. The guys are the top are very fast but there is a strict no touching rule so the racing is very clean. It's not unusual to go 4 or 5 races with grids of 30 cars without a single touch.

    The series is open only to challenge cars. We have an "exhibition class" for modified challenge cars but it is limited in that it is open only on a case by case basis to accommodate challenge car owners that were modified by previous owners. And the exhibition class cars do not run for points. There has been no interest in an anything goes modified class.

    The website has a ton of info.
     

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