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360 CS exhaust available as option on Modena and Spider?

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  1. superyota

    superyota Formula Junior

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    I have heard that the CS exhaust is now an option for the 360 coupe and spider..anyone know anything?
     
  2. ToddB

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    they don't make a coupe anymore......just CS and Spider
     
  3. kizdan

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    Where'd you here that? They most certainly do still make a Coupe. And yes, you can now get the racing exhaust on any 360.
     
  4. titanium360

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    Dan, as of last month Ferrari of Long Island can not put in any orders for coupes any longer.
     
  5. t88power

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    Ferrari is still producing 360 coupes.

    Ernesto
     
  6. rossi

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    Only the ones already ordered.
     
  7. PCH

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    OK...But lets back to the exhaust option/question. Are you referring to the CS as a racing exhaust? The exhaust on the CS is not a racing system and really doesn't sound much better than the stock 360 system. What would be the benifit of offering it as an option!? Maybe Ferrari has too much stock on this item?
     
  8. rob lay

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    I think the Euro 360 CS sounds much better! Haven't really heard an American model though.

    With many CS owners upgrading to aftermarket, there should maybe be some available soon. Not telling where, but I just saw a stack of 25 355 stock exhausts from owners that had upgraded.
     
  9. kizdan

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    The CS' exhaust is called a "racing exhaust". I think the sound is quite comparable to a Tubi, perhaps even better.
     
  10. rob lay

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    "racing exhaust" is a marketing term, nothing racing about it, except it's a little more free than a standard 360 exhaust. Now a 355/360 Challenge exhaust is racing. So if you can't hear it 3 miles away, it's not racing. :)
     
  11. PCH

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    "racing exhaust" is a marketing term, nothing racing about it, except it's a little more free than a standard 360 exhaust.
    The term free or free flowing seems to be used quite a bit with regard to 'the better exhaust system.' This has always confused me as it was my understanding that back pressure is good especially for low-mid range pull. If no other mods are completed except replacing the stock exhaust with a CS or like system will this really benifit in terms of low end HP gain?
     
  12. rob lay

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    You have to look at the overall design of the exhaust. Most of these ricers that put a coffee can exhaust on are actually taking away the torque to accelerate. They don't care, it sounds good.
     
  13. PCH

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    I think this is not exclusive to ricers but also Ferrari. I would be interested in seeing real world Dyno charts comparing stock vs. CS, Tubi, Capristo, etc...I realize that most aftermarket systems are lighter and sound better but do they really offer HP gain.
     
  14. johnw

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    you cannot order a 2005 modena
     
  15. MemoryFab.com

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    Exactly, It also depends on where along the powerband you are looking to gain most out of. Highend output means sacrificing certain low to mid end or vice versa.

    This is why a lot of ferrari systems as well as some japanese manufacturers are using actuators to control flow depending on pressure.
     
  16. superyota

    superyota Formula Junior

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    I know that Ferrari is still building Coupes but I am not sure about 2005 (anyone else know?). The CS exhaust has to be better flowing and lighter weight than stock 360. If it did nothing than F wouldnt have built it for the CS. my $.02
     
  17. G-force

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    $4600. Carbon fiber engine compartment kit. $4500.
     
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    Probably sacrifice low end torque for HP gain up the top. If the car is to be used on the track then this is okay, as the driver should be keeping it spinning ... but for road use, only required for sound ;)

    Lets face it road performance does not matter a damn ... but sound actually does!, so you cannot give somebody a hard time for putting on a CS exhaust as nobody can speed anyway so you might as well listen to that sweeter sound :D

    Pete
     
  20. Brian C. Stradale

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    Well, a CS sounds waaayyyy better than a stock 360!

    Are you saying the exhaust isn't the major contributor to that?
    Or are you saying that a CS doesn't sound much better than a 360?
     
  21. PCH

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    Brian, By merely changing the stock 360 exhaust to a CS without any other engine mods I don't believe you will see any HP gain. Regarding sound well, although different, not much better than a 360, IMHO.
     
  22. PCH

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    Exactly...But it was built around the CS motor and ECU not a 360.
     
  23. Izza

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    Spoke to Scuderia systems and Tubi are releasing a Stradale 'Street' exhaust. As I understand it this is very close indeed to an original Stradale exhaust. Therefore it is an (aftermarket) option for all 360's.
     
  24. PCH

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    Is in addition to the factory offering a CS exhaust on the 360? Or was the original posts referring to Tubi's version?
     
  25. PCH

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    Do you have contact info. for Scuderia Systems?
     

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