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360 degree brake system and why doesn’t F1 develop this?

Discussion in 'F1' started by Jameel, Nov 2, 2005.

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  1. Jameel

    Jameel Formula Junior

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    #1 Jameel, Nov 2, 2005
    I don’t’ know if some of you remember a few years ago, there was a company called NewTek or was it NewTech. They use to sponsor a car in the SpeedTV touring car series. Anyway they were developing a 360 degree braking system. In theory it sounded like a great idea, but whatever happened to the idea, development, company, etc…?

    Why hasn’t any F1 teams developed this technology?
     
  2. t88power

    t88power Formula 3

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    #2 t88power, Nov 2, 2005
  3. Jameel

    Jameel Formula Junior

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    #3 Jameel, Nov 2, 2005
    Yah I’ve been to the site, the technology has been around for a long time. So if it’s such a great thing how come it hasn’t been adopted by the car industry yet?

    I read an article that Renault is looking at offering this on their cars’

    How come F1 has created something like this a long time ago?
     
  4. ROGUE GTS

    ROGUE GTS Formula Junior

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    #4 ROGUE GTS, Nov 2, 2005
    Honestly I think it has far more drawbacks than the slight benefit it may offer.

    1st being weight, that multi-caliper setup has to be heavy and unsprung weight is to be avoided at all costs.

    It's only benefit would be from an endurance standpoint in having a ton more pad material available. But at the same time it would be a major pita to change pads/rotors during a race.

    Neat design but just about totally useless from what I have seen. To gain braking performance you need to increase the pressure based on area, just adding more pads and calipers isn't always the answer, same with adding more pistons to a caliper.

    I think a major advancement would be using something like a clutch disc. Sheerly from the standpoint that you could remove the whole assembly as one unit making replacement during a race much quicker.
     
  5. senna21

    senna21 F1 Rookie

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    #5 senna21, Nov 2, 2005
    Because the rules prohibit them: http://www.formula1.com/insight/rulesandregs/14/482.html

    Silly rabbit you don’t really think F1 is actually about racing the most sophisticated cars do you? That ended in the early 90s.
     
  6. racerx3317

    racerx3317 F1 Veteran

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    #6 racerx3317, Nov 2, 2005
    Because if Ferrari couldn't get it to work they would have it banned.........:)
     
  7. teak360

    teak360 F1 World Champ

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    #7 teak360, Nov 3, 2005
    The size of the pad in F1 is not a limiting factor. There is plenty of braking power available in the current configuration, and given the light weight of the cars they don't wear out in what is basically a sprint race.
     
  8. senna21

    senna21 F1 Rookie

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    #8 senna21, Nov 3, 2005
    Actually break wear is always a factor in an F1 race. If I remember correctly it was either JB or TS who had a rotor explode on him in Canada this year due to excessive wear. Carbon on Carbon breaks wear at incredible rate.
     

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