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  1. PATLEW

    PATLEW Formula 3

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    Ok I have my first issue with my 360 spider. It has been perfect and today I went to get in the car and the door would not unlock and when it did it would only allow me into the passenger side door. Car starts right up and after playing with the key fob the locking mechanisim would click repeadeately but not unlock the driver door. Any suggestions on what to look at to fix this?
     
  2. hangarsixco

    hangarsixco Formula Junior

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    The lock mechanism may be failing or has failed. However you may need to adjust the inner door handle lock rods. Which are located under the arm rest.

    Can you unlock it with the key?



     
  3. Testacojones

    Testacojones F1 Veteran

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    That happened to my F430 and the mechanism needed replacement.
     
  4. PATLEW

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    #4 PATLEW, Mar 25, 2012
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    I can only unlock the passenger side door. Do you have any instructions on how to do the fix under the arm rest? Keep in mind I cannot open the driver door. When you try to unlock it from inside the door it will not engage up to unlock. Just feels like something in eigther disconnected the outside door latch when you lift it to open it hangs and full open and then slowly goes back. Same with the inside lock latch and no the door will not relaese with the key in the lock.
     
  5. hangarsixco

    hangarsixco Formula Junior

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    So when you stick the key in the door tumbler lock On the drivers side and turn it to unlock does it automatically lock again? Or will it not turn at all.

    If you turn the lock and it relocks immediately. Then kill the master power switch and try to unlock it with the key and open the door.

    Sounds like the mechanism failed. This happened to me on my passenger door. It was a Pain to get it unlatched. I had to take apart the door from the inside.

     
  6. PATLEW

    PATLEW Formula 3

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    No that did not work. When I put power back in the system it clicked back and forth again about 5 times but still not able to open the door. It feels different from the passenger and driver sides. The driver side is just not engaging the release to allow it to open.
     
  7. PATLEW

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    Any suggestions on how to proceed I would rather not take it to the F shop if I can do it on my own.
     
  8. ttdang123

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    #8 ttdang123, Mar 25, 2012
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  9. hangarsixco

    hangarsixco Formula Junior

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    Failed door lock unit is my conclusion #4 on the parts diagram.

    You can try a few things before taking apart the inner door panel.

    Continue trying to lock and unlock the car with the Fob and or key. It may release on its own.
    When mine went out it did the same thing. When locking or unlocking it just clicked over 3-4 times then stopped.

    It locked me out twice as the first time I thought it was a fluke and I shut the door. A few days later went to open it and it would unlatch.

    The first time I stood there with my hand on the door handle and kept pulling the handle whe I hit the fob button. It eventually released.

    The second time I was not that lucky and had to disassemble the entire inner door handle to reach the mechanism.

    I can give more details on that when we get to that area.


    http://www.ricambiamerica.com/parts_catalogs.php?M=FE&P=&V=diag&I=632


     
  10. PATLEW

    PATLEW Formula 3

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  11. hangarsixco

    hangarsixco Formula Junior

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    The entire inner panel can be removed from inside the car with the exception of a few screws in the bottom of the panel. I had to unfortunately tear the lower portion of the panel off as there was a coarse thread screw holding the lower part of the panel on. Thankfully it is in an unseen area and I had an interior shop repair it. Open up your passenger door and take a look at all the Allen fasteners on the aluminum kick panel. Once that is off you will need to remove the rest of the panel screws.

    First remove the door handle arm rest pad. Pull up from the rear of the car and it will lift off. Then try adjusting the lock mech rods. I believe they are right and left hand threaded 10mm

    My Indy shop had a car with both lock mechs failed and it is a pain in the a$$


    I can probably better explain this by phone if need to talk directly let me know.

    Chris.

     
  12. ttdang123

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    Could you get in through the passenger side door and pop the arm rest on the driver side door to adjust its cable? Maybe that might help.

    I recall another member was able to open his stuck door through the arm rest opening access (not easy and w a smaller arm) - but can not find that posting yet.
     
  13. PATLEW

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    I did the armrest thing and all appears in good shape comparing it to the passenger side they both have the same tension in the cable. I think it has to be the mechanisim itself becasue it continues to engage back and forth when I lift the unlock on the arm rest. Still can not get the driver door open it willnot unlock it.
     
  14. hangarsixco

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    You said you tried the main power, did you try killing the power and unlocking it with the key?
    Not sure if you tried that yet.

    Kill the power and try the key in the tumbler lock, it will be tight to turn but may release.

    Chris


     
  15. PATLEW

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    Yeah did that it won't unlock it
     
  16. hangarsixco

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    I know it's sounds lame, but I would keep trying what we discussed as it may eventually free up. Other then that you will need to get into the door and pry the lock latch loose.

    One more suggestion, when trying to unlock the door push in on the door slightly, this can relieve some tension on the lock striker and it may release.

    Chris


     
  17. PATLEW

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    No luck its funny when I lift the door latch outside the window goes down a crack as it should but it will not open the door. I will have to make the call to the shop in the morning to see what they suggest. Thanks for the suggestions.
     
  18. hangarsixco

    hangarsixco Formula Junior

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    Yeah, there is a micro switch on both the inside and outside door handles that controll the window drop.

     
  19. Spider360Matt

    Spider360Matt Formula Junior

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    I have an 01 Spider that did the same thing. Including the differences between the driver and passenger door. After messing around with it, I found that I was expecting too short of a response time from the lock/unlock feature with the alarm. As a result, I used the key on the passenger side to gain entry and started the car - after doing that twice, it seemed to reset and it hasnt happened since.

    The window did the drop thing and the door remained locked....exactly the same symptoms as you.
     
  20. PATLEW

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    It has not happened since did you have it looked at? I started the car about three times and nothing.
     
  21. vrsurgeon

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    ahhh lock mechanism motors.. I'd put my money on the little motor in the lock that locks and unlocks the door. I predict burnout or a gear in it has stripped. Have you tried turning off power in trunk and then moving the small lock lever on the door handle a few times? That has a direct mechanical connection to the lock mechanism...
     
  22. PATLEW

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    Yes done that and nothing
     
  23. vrsurgeon

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    Darn! And then you tried that while pressing the unlock button on remote or turned key at same time to give it that extra oomph it may need?
     
  24. PATLEW

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    Yes sir I tried everything I give up. Just got back from dropping it off at the shop to have it fixed. They said they have done this many many times and I will have it back by Tuesday.
    Mostlikely the cable or worst case the door mechanisim will need to be changed. Its an eigther or situation.
     
  25. hangarsixco

    hangarsixco Formula Junior

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    Patrick,

    Let us know what was replaced when you get it back. Sorry nothing offered here helped you. Hopefully you will have it back quickly.

    Chris.

     

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