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360 360 F1 Gearbox Transmission not selecting gear - No Error Lights 430 Stradale

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  1. spiderscott

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    #51 spiderscott, May 2, 2019
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    #52 flash32, May 2, 2019
    Thanks

    I do have the whole manual but was really interested in when you back off the screws what actually happened inside the unit..how does the fluid flow .when you loosing the screws does the fluid travel back to the tank ?

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    #53 spiderscott, May 2, 2019
    Now that I've literally just repaired the broken pin, I can start to reassemble the system and will video the process of bleeding.
     
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    #54 gphodge, May 2, 2019
    spiderscott,

    This has been a great thread, did he happen to give you a price on the pin and did you find a new gasket for the acuator. I have been thinking of getting another 360 with the F1 and the acuator going south worried me on price but looks pretty straight forward how they work.
     
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    #55 spiderscott, May 3, 2019

    Yes the upgrade titanium pin was around £25 posted
     
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    #57 spiderscott, May 3, 2019
    Also ordered a full major service kit with cam belts and Hill Tensioners for the 360. Keep a look out on may channel in the next week or two and watch me perform the major.

    Last pic is Cam Belts on the 348. Yes you guessed it after i've fixed the actuator and major on the 360. the 348 engine is coming out for belts. Video coming soon.
     
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    #58 gphodge, May 3, 2019
    Wait until you have to put that small piece of valve cover gasket in between the 2 cams gear seals, access really sucks from the front access or from the top. What a pain in the arse, not sure why Ferrari designed a valve cover gasket that you have to cut apart to fit it to the head.
     
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    #59 gphodge, May 3, 2019
    Where did you get the pin and were you able to source the gasket sandwiched in between in the acuator or are you going to be providing a kit to buy later?
     
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    #60 gphodge, May 3, 2019
    I'm curious on how the Hill tool works on setting up the acuator.
     
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    #61 mike01606, May 3, 2019
    It's in the WSM......PM me if you want a copy
     
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    #62 gphodge, May 3, 2019
    Thanks, I have a WSM. I just never looked at that section, hope he does a video on it.
     
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    #63 mike01606, May 3, 2019
    The principle is quite straightforward.....It's just a jig to locate the mechanical selection mechanism in position whilst the TCU centres the actuator shaft (both selection and engagement) based on feedback from the two sensors. It's then locked off in the correct position.

    So in sequence it's bleed the actuator and lines, centre the actuator using the jig (following the WSM process), reattach to the gearbox, then carry out a relearn procedure.
     
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    #64 gphodge, May 3, 2019
    Well that sounds pretty straight forward and thanks for the information and description on how it works, I'm so used to looking at the 360 WSM manual reminding me of the WSM of the 1974 Mazda Repu pickup. Looks like they had the same guys do them in 1974 as well as 1999 for Ferrari. Here is a pic, black and white from 1974
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    #65 Ingenere, May 4, 2019
    Great work and good on you DD the CS!
     
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    #66 spiderscott, May 8, 2019
    Final video on the F1 Actuator for 360, 430, Enzo etc

    In this one I:
    Rebuild and Repair, then reinstallation and all the alignments including the Jig, plus the computer bleeding, centering and full setup process.

    Hope it helps

     
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    #67 gphodge, May 8, 2019
    Nice job with this one Scott and love the video, what software did you end up using to do the bleed on the acuator, inquiring minds want to know.
     
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    #68 flash32, May 8, 2019
    From the video it looks like launch x431

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    #69 gphodge, May 9, 2019
    That's what I was thinking from the video as well but was hoping he would chime in on it as to what version of software and dongle he is using to connect and I know he has a 360 CS tcu
     
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    #70 mike01606, May 9, 2019
    Correct with Ferrari v10.80.
    CFC231 hardware CS TCU accessed through the 430 menus.
    The CFC231 in the 360 gearbox menus does not have the special functions.

    Any version back to at least 10.25 works...
     
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    #71 jg360, May 9, 2019
    Scott, I have a question.... when I took my old actuator off I found a lot of trans oil leaking inside one of the sensors cavity. It was the one closer to the center. Are there any seal that you saw or replaced. Or did you just replace the gasket from the two half’s?
    Btw the video was fantastic! I do want to know if you actually took any videos during the centering procedure. I was a little confused when I did mine. Not sure if you run the centering procedure while the bolt is loose or after you check the shin tolerance?
    Thanks


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    #72 flash32, May 9, 2019
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    #73 jg360, May 9, 2019
    So I’m assuming that when you start this process the actuator should be in neutral.....


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    #74 spiderscott, May 10, 2019
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    The F430 SM screen shots that Dominick kindly uploaded seem to either miss a step or have a slight different procedure than that of the 360 WSM.

    For the 360 you need to go in via the SW and select 'Actuator Centring' which puts the fingers in the correct position to then insert the Jig Tool along with the Shim thats needed (worked out by measuring the diameter) and then once all in place, tighten the 13mm nut.

    To answer your question, yes I believe that the position it places the 'fingers' in is its neutral reference point.
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    #75 jg360, May 10, 2019
    OK that makes sense I thought there was step missing. What value did you get for the Delta actuator centering


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