360 f1 transmission

Lots of possibilities but the top of the hit parade is that the clutch is DOA.

 

Yes, but it is entirely possible the clutch is fully worn out from 2004-2009...

 

I think one could wear out a clutch in 6K miles if one drove it like a turbo-hydro-matic, i.e., slip it slowly into motion with lots of intentional slipping, hold the car on a hill with the gass, backup uphill regularly, stop and go traffic without forcefully engaging a low gear and allowing enough space before you so that you are not engagning and disengaging over and over while rolling a few MPH..

Anyway if I read correctly there was a clutch adjustment not a new clutch in 2004. By my math it had about 10K miles in 2004 and could have been at 60% clutch then.

 

Will it engage the gear now if not I would say throw out bearing, or a clutch position sensor, and magnet.

 

Sure sounds like you're due for a new clutch..... [Get the flywheel resurfaced at the same time - Search is your friend.]

BTW, general consensus is that "auto" mode is a clutch killer and should *never* be used......

Cheers,
Ian

 

Well you can continue to ask a bunch of people on the internet most of whom probably have no clue but are ready with an answer and one or two of which actually know WTF they are talking about and are just guessing anyway because no one here has a cristal ball or you could take it to your favorite shop equipped with an SD2 or 3 an have an actual diagnosis done in about 10 minutes.

Your choice really unless this has all been just an intellectual excersize.

 

well said!

 

Picking brains is OK but you need to be selective. I don't ask lawyers for advice about my car or my mechanic for legal advice.

 

How many people in this thread are currently Factory trained Ferrari Technicians. I AM. Enough said. Just cause you own one and spend all day on this forum doesnt mean your are qaulified to work on them. You have to be selective on whom responds but you dont have to be an prick about your response. When you want the right info go to the guy that actually gets paid to do this.

 

I am glad we agree.

 

We are all here to help check your ego's at the door. If you feel like you can add something to the thread then do it. Just be ready to be corrected if the info you are giving out is incorrect. I would suggest that clutch wear be checked. If you have access to an SD3 then you are set. If not you could always try to get you clutch to slip by putting in a very high gear at a low speed. Let us know what you find. Please do not put your car in automode. If you want an automatic buy a 456.

 

Ryan,

Problem is, there are too many guys out there that get paid to do this that aren't qualified or certified and quite honestly should not be touching these cars....

Owners owe it to themselves to be selective about who they accept (accurate) advice from....

Even more important they should make sure the individual tech. working on their car is truely qualified.... Ask for a list of (Ferrari specific) credentials, including work experience, training and certification.


You don't want to discover after the fact that the doctor treating your child is a veterinarian and not a pediatrician.....


Also Ryan,


Ego check and respect your elders, it will get you alot further alot faster.

Brian (Rifledriver) is a straight up NO BS guy who has been working on these cars longer than you have been alive..... I know, I have worked with him in the past.

SD-2 or 3 will work for the diagnostic. Just having access to an SD unit doesn't mean the techs. know how to use it. I am freaquently called to shop near mine that has a SD-2 to perform diagnostic work.

Since you have dedicated all of your career toward working on Ferrari, you probably agree that without seeing the car in person it probably needs a clutch and or TO bearing sleeve update due to the symptoms.....

BTW, there is nothing wrong with putting a 360 F1 car in the auto mode.... 456GTA gearbox and 360F1 gearboxes and cars are two entirely different animals....

 

My credentials were questioned with attitude. Brian if you want to know my background then just ask dont assume that I dont know what I am talking about. I am sure I could learn a lot from you Brian and I am certain that you could learn a lot from me. I dont need a lesson in respect I think you guys need to stop looking down on people. You guys were very quick to judge. If you think that you know it all then I am certain that you are not the tech that you think you are. I have plenty of respect for those who respect me. If you ask me this is silly. We seem to have the same job so why are we bickering. The point is the gentlemen needs help and I have stated that this seems to me to be an issue with the clutch are T/O bearing. However it would be irresponsible for me to say that for certain it is the T/O or clutch. The car needs to be in front of me to be sure that is the exact issue. This is only a guess at what the issue can be. I have done my fair share of these just as anyone who worked on these cars for long enough has. PM me if you want to know my credentials. I am happy to share. All the training in the world does not make you a good technician.

 

Hey 8 years experience is a lifetime.....

 

No it's not but Thanks for saying so.

 

No one was singling you out. There were many responses (as usual) that were just not good info. My comments were addressed to them and an owner who was looking for an answer he liked.

Just FYI my first Ferrari PDI had carburetors and I stuck around long enough to do 360 school in Maranello and 575 school in New Jersey and I was shop forman in what at the time was the largest volume Ferrari dealer on the planet. Adam and I worked there together.

Adam probably has more hands on experience on F50GT1 cars than anyone alive and spent years Challenge racing on top of about 25 years in dealers.

There is also Dave Helms and Jim Milford here with similar creds.


Don't think you are alone here.

 

Are you saying that driving in Auto mode does not make shifting poor?