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360 - Fluid Replace v. Oil Change

Discussion in '360/430' started by kenny1022, May 7, 2008.

  1. kenny1022

    kenny1022 Formula Junior

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    Hey guys:

    I couldn't find info on this from previous posts. Can someone tell me when I would need a complete fluid replace versus an oil change? Regarding other maintenance, here's what I came up with for the 360 Modena:

    Oil change - 5K miles
    Timing Belts - 3yrs or 15K miles
    Major - Every 6 yrs or 30K miles

    Comments welcome. Thanks.

    K.
     
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  3. zippyslug31

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    Isn't it SOP to change "all the other fluids" (i.e. not just the oil) when they do the belts?
     
  4. PCH

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    Engine Oil/Filter = At least every 12 months
    Brake and Clutch Fluid = At least every 12 months
    Gearbox and Differential = At least every 2 years
    Timing Belt Service = 3 yrs. or 30K miles or whichever occurs first
     
  5. tstafford

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    +1
     
  6. kenny1022

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    Ok - so assuming i drive my f-car less than 5K miles a year, a complete fluid replacement once a year should take care of all my needs (EXCLUDING the belts and major service)>...
     
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  8. E60 M5

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    Yep, that would do it! A little over kill, but that would cover it pretty well. FOW charges $800 for a full fluid service.


    Robert
     
  9. PCH

    PCH F1 Rookie

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    Parts and labor charges will typically vary from dealer to dealer. The following are current, average parts/labor charges obtained from three authorized dealers.

    Engine Oil/Flter = 300.00
    Brake/Clutch = 600.00
    Complete Fluid Change/Annual Service = 1,500 - 2,100
    *Engine Oil/Filter
    *Brake/Clutch
    *Gear Box/Differential
    *Power Steering
    *Coolant
    *Chassis Service/Re-torque Suspension
     
  10. kenny1022

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    if it's overkill, what would you suggest - would 18 months suffice instead of 12? thx.
     
  11. E60 M5

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    Kenny,

    I would suggest sticking with the regular service intervals since you are driving the car 5k a year. I would also go the extra mile and have the gear box filter screen cleaned at the same time you do the gear box fluid. Many people fail to have this checked or cleaned and this will kill the transmission in a hurry. A 360 owner here locally didn't want to pay the extra for the service, 6 months later time for a new gear box!!! They have to remove the rear bumper to perform the service and this adds extra cost. Mine was done when I purchased the car from the original owner and it had never been cleaned!! There was silicone gel from the factory still around the screen, it was pretty dirty!
    PCH, covered it pretty good, here is the FNA break down.

    1yr / 5k

    Oil & Fluid
    Brake Fluid
    SD2 report
    Preventive lube care
    I-A (inspect and adjust) $928=Service Total

    2yr / 10k

    Oil & Fluid
    GBX
    Brake Fluid
    Coolant
    P.S. Fluid
    Pollen filters
    Air Filter
    SD2 report
    Preventive lube care
    I-A $1,826.90 = Service Total

    According to the FNA guidelines the GBX and differential screen should be removed and inspected on the 2yr/10k job.

    I should post the sheets if I can ever figure out how to get them on the computer!!!! LOL!!

    Robert
     
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  13. kenny1022

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    Rob - As always, I appreciate the help. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure!!!
     
  14. toshiba

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    is it best to change fluids before putting away for winter or after taking out for spring?
     
  15. numisrx

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    If driving over 5k/year, are 5k oil changes acceptable? Someone told me 3k.
     
  16. E60 M5

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    Best to change fluids before any long period of storage, if that is what you mean by winter. Moisture has a habit of collecting in lines and corriding. Some very good threads on storage, do a quick search. Hope this helps.


    Robert
     
  17. RossoCorsaItaly

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    5k miles seems a bit too much, unless you drive your car really easy. I would do 2.5-3k depending on how hard you drive. This is in regards to oil
     
  18. hotcello

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    Hi guys, I have tried the search function but maybe I have missed something.
    I bought my 2002 360F1 with 7200 miles last late October, right before delivery the dealer done a full fluid change. Today the car is 9889 miles. What kind of service should I be aware of at this time? Should I at least get an oil change? The car is running great, the only problem I have is the break is shaking in high speed. Anyone know a good place to go near New York City? I always go up to Greenwich to Miller Motors but it's getting a little far for me just to drop off the car.
    Thanks in advance.
    Ken
     
  19. E60 M5

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    Ken,

    I typed in "service intervals 360" in the search function and came up with a bunch of hits, here is one. You should change the oil once a year, with more agressive driving twice or more often, depending on track days and so on.

    Hope this helps!


    Robert
     
  20. synchro

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    Is the brake vibration only at high speed/high pedal pressure? Depending on condition you may have caught an early wear or warping issue but I would not delay in tending to this. Although difficult to analyze from behind a keyboard, suggest you get it looked at soon.
     
  21. hotcello

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    Thanks Robert, I typed oil change, very little came up, only talkinb about the types of oil people use. BTW, what kind of oil do you use on your car?
    Ken
     
  22. hotcello

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    The issue started when I have this high pitch noise at the begining of the year on a slow stop for the red light, now the steering wheel vibrates when I step on the brake on apx. 80 mph. When changing rotors do they always change in a pair?
     
  23. E60 M5

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    I use the Shell Helix oil.


    Robert
     
  24. synchro

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    While I don't own a 360, in most cars if you catch it soon enough then you don't need to replace the rotors when these vibrations happen. It is standard procedure that rotors can be "turned" (aka turned on a lathe) to correct the run out aberrations and when fitted with new pads they will be returned them to original parallel surfaces.

    Your technician will guide you in your options, but safety should be the #1 concern.

    Yes, IF rotors need to be changed, then they should be changed in pairs.


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