360- High mileage owners more than 60K miles

Rob,


if you want a Ferrari then buy one but to compare a NSX to a Ferrari is not just. NSX is a honda which are very reliable and hi tech for its time but not like the GTR which is still a Nissan and is very reliable.

these cars can be faster, more reliable better suited for daily driving than a Ferrari but it aint a Ferrari.

Once you buy one then you will realize how your perception will change.

 

I have found that as the depreciation curve is flattening.. it actually makes fiscal sense believe it or not! I bought my Boxster for $25k, I'd be lucky to get $15 for it today with 62k miles. Probably closer to 10. So, owning it for 5 years its depreciated $10-15k dollars. My 360 if I ever decide to sell it, will likely not exceed that. Ho hum boxster or 360.. same depreciation less operating costs. Alot of guys on this site bring the car in to the dealership for each and every little thing that isn't perfect. Perfection is in my eyes an expensive fools game. It can never be and even perfect cars will depreciate. As a result they claim $2-3k a year in costs. I'm seeing probably half that. This year will be greater given that I need a belt change. It really is that doable.

 

Sorry folks, but I had to. To make it simple for everyone, every car is special in it's own way to it's owner. Whether it be a Lambo to an Fcar owner or a Civic to a first time car owner. Hell, my wife thinks her X3 is better than any of our cars! The most important thing is, our car(s) makes us feel good and that is a league on it's own!

EDIT: BTW, my 360 has well over 150k kilometres (bought her with less than 3k kilos!) and other than the usual maintenance, she still fires up without any dramas.



Drive her everyday whenever I'm in Manila and yes, she gets more attention than my brother's NSX! Back in LAX now to pick up a Gallardo then off to MNL to have another affair with my Modena!!!


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I guess this would be a bad time to ask how my C6 Z06 compares to exotics. I have owned bunches of cars including F cars and many Shelby Cobra replicas. Nothing compares to my Z
Mike

 

Apples and oranges! Plus, a replica is not even a real car!!! Unless you're Napolis.


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I owned an NSX for 5 years. I sold it in 2003. This year I thought about getting an NSX again, but I really wanted a Ferrari this time so I got the 360. I've only had it for 2 months and only put 3.5k miles on it so far so I can't comment on its reliability yet, but I do drive it everyday.

What was nice about the NSX was the Honda priced bills at the dealer for normal maintenance. Nothing broke on it during the 30k miles I had it.

With that said, I knew what kind of bills to plan for with the 360 so I built that into the price of ownership. If the car being potentially unreliable is a reason to not buy it. It could be that you don't want it bad enough. I looked at a Lambo and someone told me they have issues and it turned me off (don't know how true it was). I looked at a 360 and were told they have issues and I was like, "I don't care, I want one." That's when you know you really want that car.

 

The Gallardo never cost me more than $2300 a year to maintain. Granted I DIY'ed most of the maintenance on it myself except for the clutch which I imported a tech from Lambo HK to install the item. In either case, my G was an easier car to drive and own than my Modena. Which is why I'm in the market for another.

My 360 will then be converted into a track only car.


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Great tangents in this thread...

I think the commonality that we all agree on amongst the arguments is Passion for a brand. There are those who are passionate about NSX's and others who are passionate about Ferrari's. For me, currently, it is Lotus. I love the marque and it's heritage with racing. It's an interesting comparison because it is reported on forums that s$*t breaks down (oil starve, things coming loose in the hand built car), etc....so reliability is not its forte.
But keep in mind that similar to Ferrari's reported on these forums, for every "reliability"issue you read on 1 car, there are probably several cars that have no "reliability" issues and are driven just fine. People just don't report that on forums. People focus on the bad when it comes to "reliability"
That being said, I looovved my chrome orange Elise and the visceral driving experience, especially on track. It is emotionally indescribable. It got insurmountable attention on the roads...but is it an exotic, I wouldn't say so. I wouln't say that it is in the same league as Ferrari (unless you are debating racing heritage).

Oh and reliability and maintenance? meh! Someone said it right, when you are that loyal to a brand, it really doesn't matter. I spend wads of $ on the Lotus and even more $ racing it. It is just that good.

Nevertheless, I am awe inspired by Ferrari's history, racing, and marque, as I am with the Lotus....and for that reason, I am seeking ownership for one in the near future.

 

Nice post. Completely agree.

 

3 posts... Have a 360 spider listed as cars want... Yet reliability and a wife is keeping you from buying a 458 cash? Do you really think any person on this forum would take you serious? I would stick to the NSX Forums. You are only hurting your buddy by posting such non sense...

 

Agreed. It's amazing how many non-owners of Ferraris could easily afford to buy one for cash without it costing them a thought.

Pity this potentially useful thread has gotten off topic though. It might have yielded some good info ......

Unsubscribed!

 

You guys are unbelievable...If you read my profile I'm a financial advisor and so I tend to be a bit fiscally conservative with my purchases. I always look to buy a $1.00 worth of assets for $.60 hence the pre-owned. I never said I WANTED to buy a 430 or 458, I stated I could afford to buy one. Financial lesson boys, just because you have the resources doesn't mean you have to indulge. So if I could have bought a Ferrari for 90k-100k that would have been enough for me. I don't feel like I need to wear 10k Rolex or have the largest house on the block or dine in the most expensive restaurants. My tastes tend to run a bit on the understated side.

See you at the next C&C???…Uhhh….I don’t think so! BUT I'll know you Ferrari boys were there I'll just look for the oil spots in the parking lot.


PS-My wife not allowing me to buy a 458 was said tongue in cheek...so I guess you can add "zero sense of humor" as another redeeming quality of an F car owner.

 

Just saw this thread.
I owned an NSX for 5 years. I have also owned (and still own) a 360 for six years.
They are in the same league.

 

I LOVE THIS GUY!!!

 

Don't get me wrong, the 360 is a better car is almost all aspects than the NSX. I just don't think you can say that the NSX is not in the same league.

 

Are you retarded or just plain stupid...?



This is a FERRARI FORUM.



Oh, and PS....? Financial Advisor doesn't mean ****. I know of plenty who are struggling severely.


Don't come on here bashing us who HAVE stepped up to the plate and purchased a Ferrari. You will not win and you will get banned.

God I hate trolls.....

 

POPCORN in microwave right now.

 

Relevant to thread: ECU's in my experience with age are just like any other car... usually fine but the sensors are what goes. Exception is in engine compartment whereby I've heard that thermocouple ECU's have gone. Otherwise just like any other european car. Maybe we shoudl start a thread like this in Tech section in the future with a list of things that have popped up by age and miles?

Relevant to the Drama:

Opinion noted. ;-)

Tried civility and since that's my baby you're referring to... see this thread about "financial advisors and wealth management" > http://ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=341762

Life lesson Rob... you can say all you want about what you're going to do, but until you DO it, it's just talk. BS artists will tell you about the fantastic gains that can be had. I listen to those who have the results. And yes, by making sound fiscal decisions I OWN this car.
Boys dream of owning a Ferrari, not a Honda. Now you're going to use the line.. "I WAS going to buy a Ferrari but the owners are so full of themselves." Sure.
There's nothing wrong with wearing a Rolex and eating Crudo at a nice restaurant, life's too short. It's just hard aspiring to wear a Timex in Applebee's...

 

I think you misunderstand the poster, I read his statement about being a financial adviser as being his way of explaining that this progression makes him conservative in his purchases, in fact he then explains this. In fairness the financial position of your friends in a similar industry have no bearing on this persons ability to buy a Ferrari.

Believe it or not there will be some people in the world that look into buying a Ferrari and then after researching but something different, the reasons they do that will vary, but often it will be due to the information posted on this and other forums.

You can buy and run a car with similar performance to a Ferrari for less outlay, I say that based on the posts on here explaining how much people have spent on simple servicing and how much it costs me to run my 911 Turbo.

However I am not Ferrari bashing, I will buy one at some point, but I wanted to run the exotic that I bought this time as my daily drive, now with 100k+ miles on it it's been bullet proof. I want to run a Ferrari as my weekend car, so a big difference their.

I would never buy one however just to experience adoration, people looking, taking pictures etc, that just sounds a little bit weird to me.

 

Cars (anything over a 6 year old Toyota) are an emotional purchase. Buy what turns you on and you can afford. There is almost always a year wait (if you are lucky) to buy any new Ferrari.

 

I see your point. And it is possible that I did misinterpret his post.

But the oil spot at C&C comment by that poster was a way of belittling Ferrari owners.

 

I genuinely couldn't be less interested in other people worshiping my purchase, any purchase, I find that whole concept more than a little odd to be honest. I mentioned performance and cost to run as my reasons at the time for buying a 911 Turbo, it never entered my head during the purchase process which car would make people look at me more.

I buy what I like, not what other people want to take photos of.

 

Seems its one in the same.