360 MAF (Mass Air Flow) Sensor Price

Be careful, at that price you will get a chinese MAF .... The Bosch number is given for equivalence, but it is probably not described as a genuine Bosch MAF.

 

******* ferrari are thieves!

I still remember them charging me 2k+ to change the alarm battery, had an independant do it for 150.00!!!

 

Because your car will "know" it's not a genuine Ferrari part, and it will spit it off in impudence while you are driving down the road --- LOL

Make sure the packaging (barrel, mounting, flanges, etc.) is identical, too ---- the same Bosch MAF element may have been put into more than one housing configuration.

And, do make sure it is a "genuine Bosch" part --- there is some counterfeit crap floating around out there

 

If you wish to save money, buy from Ricambi.

You cannot get a genuine Bosch MAF for $50.

Not now, not ever.

(Unless it fell off the back of a truck - which is another story)

 

Some of us told you that you cannot have a genuine MAF, or of the same quality, for this amount of money. Believe us and ... your friend is wrong.
I made the experiment and bought from ebay a cheap MAF. I can tell you the electronics is not the same at all. While Bosch use hot film sensor, ink resistors and direct chip dices on ceramic substrate, the "probably chinese" one use a PCB with surface mount components, a much simpler design and a simple diode in the air stream ... It probably works but with a very approximate calibration curve which may endanger your engine ...
Anyway, for 50$, buy it and make your own opinion....

 

Sure, post up pictures of the product. Thanks for being the guinea pig! I'm quite curious what the build quality is like.

 

RAY ---

You've got a screw loose! LOL

By the way, I found it stuck in the tread of my sneaker when I got home

 

Seriously....

When I got home, I heard a whispering coming from the garage.... it was my Esprit, and it said, "The 360 is a pansy-mobile" --- then it challenged your car to a drag race down I-235 at dawn

 

How was your car performing before you replaced the MAF?

 

put a couple hundred of miles on her and keep us posted.

 

Price of Ferrari parts have nothing to do with quality or name of actual manufacturer.

A Bosch part will be substantially cheaper if it comes in a Bosch box instead of a Ferrari box or part #.

I once paid $270 for a master cut off switch on 360 Challenge as listed under Ferrari part #. And it didn't even come in a Ferrari box. It came in the original OMP packing with a Ferrari part # sticker on it. When I bought that same part from OMP dealer it was $50.

Another example is 360 F1 hose. Over $1,000 from Ferrari. Better quality Aeroquip hose and fittings I paid only $100.

If you have the technical knowledge and knowhow, I see nothing wrong with paying less for better quality parts.

 

I get 12-16 depending on how hard and type of driving

 

Can someone please tell me what the symptoms are of a bad MAF sensor?

Obviously the CEL in some cases, but what happens to the car? Run rough?

Thank guys.

 

a MAF "code" doesn't mean a bad MAF.

It means that the sanity cross-check between the calculated airmass (from %throttle and RPM) and the measured airmass (from MAF) are outside of nominal range.

It can also mean a broken wire (no signal), short to ground (0 volts), or short to Batt (12v) continuous on the MAF signal line.

 

Ray,

Do you see any guys in white coats with butterfly nets looking for you?

You really think saving $200 is worth risking a $40,000 engine?

FWIW, Bosch is king since they INVENTED the system on your F360.

 

JIM ---

IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE --- THE PROBLEM ON RAY'S CAR --- YOU DO NOT HAVE ALL THE RELEVANT DATA.....

There are a variety of trouble codes related to mass air flow system functionality and processing. The root cause of the problem can be any of a number of different faults within the system or within individual components involved in providing and processing the information (signals).

While it is true that there is no such OBD code which directly means "BAD / FAULTY MAF SENSOR", by understanding what the various MAF related codes mean, how the system works, and how a MAF sensor functions, the fault can be isolated.

In the case of Ray's car, we got codes relating to a "processing" error which would only result from an electrical fault. A simple diagnostic check was performed on the entire system which demonstrated that one of the sensors was receiving the good and proper signal input, but not giving the correspondingly correct range of output. All possible mechanical causes (air leak, wiring defects, fuel mixture delivery, air volume, etc.) were checked and ruled out.

This excluded everything but one of the MAF sensors. So, that component was replaced. I'll stand behind the diagnosis and the repair (replacing the sensor) as being thorough and correct.

 

I wasn't talking about Ray's car - I was talking in general.

Moving the MAF from side to side and watching the code move - is good diagnostic work.

I still question the sanity of someone who would risk a $40,000 engine to save $200.

In the land of Lotus Esprit owners - we had a word for that - DPO

Dreaded Previous Owner

Jim

 

Not always clear. A "failed" MAFS isn't all that common but they get contaminated relatively easily, often when people use aftermarket air filters that use oil to help trap contaminants. The oil comes off the filter and contaminates the MAFS. Often this does not throw any codes, and it occurs relatively gradually. The contaminated MAFS will rob your engine of power and efficiency, but the engine has so much power that you will not immediately notice the loss. The difference is most often noted when you discover you have trouble beating a Prius across an intersection and then replace the MAFS with a new one. MAFS are not generally considered a "consumable," but they should be. I would change them every 50k miles whether or not noticing any symptoms.

 

FTR, there are several (although only 3 are predominantly used in automotive applications) different physical technologies employed in MAF sensing devices. And, Bosch was not the inventor of any of them.

They do, however, hold some patents and proprietary information for their circuit designs which are used exclusively in their versions of MAF sensors. Generally speaking, the differences between "high quality" and "low quality" MAF sensor design lies in the architecture of the processing circuitry --- not the mechanical design.