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360 N-GT #2040 for sale

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  1. Ferrari 308 Vetro

    Ferrari 308 Vetro F1 Rookie

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    #1 Ferrari 308 Vetro, Feb 13, 2015
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  2. 360C

    360C F1 World Champ
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    If it is S/N 2040 it is actually a 360 GT.
    No great technical difference between N-GT and early GT's. It marked the point where Ferrari took over marketing and selling the cars themselves. Michelotto still built them.
     
  3. FlyingHaggisRacing

    FlyingHaggisRacing Formula 3

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    Is there some reason as to why this is $279k, when I can but a 430-GT3 for less than $100k in Europe ?
     
  4. Ferrari 308 Vetro

    Ferrari 308 Vetro F1 Rookie

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    Becouse you can run these Cars without 3 Mechanics, no Electronic, Laptop, Computers etc.,...
     
  5. Andi355

    Andi355 Formula Junior
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    Thats a 360 GTC, last evolution from a NGT with sequential manual very
    Fast gearbox!
     
  6. Ferrari 308 Vetro

    Ferrari 308 Vetro F1 Rookie

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    Correct Andy. Interesting that the seller dont know what he has.
     
  7. Andi355

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    Heinz, your silver 360 race car is a manual shifter too, right ?
    Is it also a GTC ?

    What I know is:

    360 Challenge: 400 HP, Paddle shifter
    360 NGT : 445 HP, Paddle shifter
    360 GT: Modified NGT, lighter, 475 HP, also Paddle shifter ?
    360 GTC: heavily modified NGT (aerodynamics, gearbox), sequential manual gearbox
    475 HP, with no restrictors up to 550HP

    Is that correct ? Are 360 GTs paddle shifter or do they have also an seqential manual
    gearbox like GTCs have ?

    Andi
     
  8. notsofast

    notsofast Karting

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    If that's a GTC then it has the wrong wing. GTC wing has mounts on the side not in the middle.
     
  9. 275gtb6c

    275gtb6c Formula 3
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    Well it looks pretty much like mine (2032, black), only different gearbox. Hewland was probably ongoing option or so because I see these more installed around 2030 and later. I prefer the "original" actually more.
    Price is a lot more than a 430, first real race car in bloodline.

    Ciao
    Oscar
     
  10. 360C

    360C F1 World Champ
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    Michelotto offered a very expensive hewland sequential conversion. A number of actively raced earlier cars were converted in period. I suspect my N-GT # 11 was one of the earliest converted as the set up is a bit different to the later cars as it is cable operated rather than rod. I am told the Veloqx team worked with Michelotto to develop the conversion.
     
  11. Andi355

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    Is this car a NGT or an GT or an orig. GTC ?

    Who can help me?
     
  12. 360C

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    #12 360C, Feb 15, 2015
    Last edited: Feb 15, 2015
    It is a GT for my money. The serial number alone shows that it is not an N-GT and the aero package is wrong for a GTC.

    Here is it's race history BTW:

    Magny Cours Race 2Hiesse/Caly (r#28)

    2003/apr/27

    dnfMagny CoursPergl/Enge* (#r57) Engine

    2003/may/11

    dnfPergusaPergl/Enge* (#r57) Accident

    2003/may/25

    13th OA / 5th N-GTBrnoPergl/Enge* (#r57)

    2003/jul/6

    7th OA / 3rd N-GT24h SpaPergl/Janiš/Schroeder* (#r57)



    Men-X

    FIA GT Championship 2003

    2003/apr/06

    14th OA/ 6th N-GTBarcelonaPergl/Enge* (#r57)

    ???

    Auto Palace Star Rent Competition

    FIA GT Championship 2003

    2003/apr/27

    8th OA/ 3rd GTMagny CoursGomez/Hiesse* (r#58)

    2003/apr/06

    12th OA/ 4th GTBarcelonaGomez/Hiesse* (#r58)

    2003/may/11

    8th OA/ 3rd GTPergusaGomez/Hiesse* (r#58)

    2003/may/25

    dnfBrnoGomez/Hiesse* (#r58)

    2003/jun/29

    dnsDoningtonGomez/Hiesse* (#r58)

    Technical problems

    2003/oct/19

    24th OA/12thGTMonzaGomez/Hiesse* (r#58)


    2003 FFSA GT

    2003/apr/21

    15th OA/3rd GTNogaro Race 1Hiesse/Caly (r#28)

    2003/apr/21

    18th OA/6th GTNogaro Race 2Hiesse/Caly (r#28)

    2003/may/18

    13th OA/5th GTDijon Race 1Hiesse/Caly (r#28)

    2003/may/18

    15th OA/6th GTDijon Race 2Hiesse/Caly (r#28)

    2003/jun/22

    11th OA/3rd GTValle de Vienne Race 1Hiesse/Caly (r#28)

    2003/jun/22

    12th OA/4th GTValle de Vienne Race 2Hiesse/Caly (r#28)

    2003/jul/14

    20th OA/7th GTLe Mans Race 1Hiesse/Caly (r#28)

    2003/jul/14

    11th OA/1st GTLe Mans Race 2Hiesse/Caly (r#28)

    2003/sep/28

    18th OA/6th GTLédenon Race 1Hiesse/Caly (r#28)

    2003/sep/28

    9th OA/2nd GT
     
  13. Ferrari 308 Vetro

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    Its a GT!
    When it raced in 2003 it can't be a GTC.
     
  14. ivo73

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    Well,i'm not a great expert on these cars ,but i follow them since years..
    S/n 2040 is the last F131 GT , before Ferrari/Michelotto build the GTC version.

    S/n 2040 was finished in Early 2003 in the ACO LM Version .
    In the late 2004 , it was totaly revised , engine and gearbox, by Michelotto.

    The rear big Wing with mounts on the side is for the FIA version , you can see that for example s/n 2038 also have the rear big Wing FIA Version , Even if this car was Born as F131GT .

    The Price then for such a car ( in ACO Version ) was 410'000 Euro .
    In 2006 the Same car, 2040 , was for sale asking 350'000 Euro.

    Ivo
     
  15. Ferrari 308 Vetro

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    Thank you Ivo, great Research.
     
  16. Andi355

    Andi355 Formula Junior
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    Okay, but why there are some GTs with paddles and some with manual gear stick
    with Hewland gearbox?
    Are there different classes?

    What about the GTCs? Are they all manual shifters?
     
  17. 360C

    360C F1 World Champ
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    Hi Ivo,

    If you're not an expert on these than I don't know who is !

    Cheers
    Scott
     
  18. 360C

    360C F1 World Champ
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    These cars went back and forth to Michelotto for rebuilds and updates when they were actively raced. Michelotto offered a kit to retrofit an earlier model with the Hewland sequential box. Some cars had this done, hence today you find examples of all sorts of different configurations on the cars.
     
  19. ivo73

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    Dear Scott,

    Thank you for the flowers . I hope all is well in down under ?

    Until soon
    Ivo
     
  20. ivo73

    ivo73 F1 Rookie
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    Scott is right with that. Not only with the gearbox they updated the cars, but also Engines that started with Step 2 configuration , arrived at the Step 4 or 5 Evolution after some rebuilds/overhauls .

    Ivo
     
  21. Ferrari 308 Vetro

    Ferrari 308 Vetro F1 Rookie

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    Chassis Numbers:

    F131 GT 2002 Ferrari SpA - Galleria
    F131 GT 2004 JMB - Garbagnati FIA GT 2003 #52 Le Mans 2004 #70
    F131 GT 2006 Risi Competizione ALMS 2002 ALMS 2003 Le Mans 2003 #94
    F131 GT 2008 Ferrari of Washington GrandAm 2002 GrandAm 2003
    F131 GT 2010 Veloqx - Sam Li British GT 2002 FIA GT 2003 #88
    F131 GT 2012 Ferrari of Beverly Hills Colour Yellow No race history ?
    F131 GT 2014 ACEMCO ALMS 2003 Le Mans 2003 #95
    F131 GT 2016 Scuderia Ecosse - Roden FIA GT 2003 - Donington GTC upgrade Le Mans 05
    F131 GT 2018 Risi - Ferri Competizione GrandAm 2003 ?
    F131 GT 2020 Loris Kessel Racing GT Italy 2003 - Champion
    F131 GT 2022 Risi Competizione Sebring 2003
    F131 GT 2024 Falcon Racing - Stroll GrandAm 2002 GrandAm 2003
    F131 GT 2026 Steve Goldman Collector No race history ?
    F131 GT 2028 ACEMCO ALMS 2003 In Australia 2005
    F131 GT 2030
    F131 GT 2032 MenX - Pergl FIA GT 2003 #57
    F131 GT 2034
    F131 GT 2036 Ferrari of Washington GrandAm 2003 - Champion
    F131 GT 2038 Cirtek LM 1000km's 2003 - 1st #47 No other races
    F131 GT 2040 Auto Palace FFSA 2003 FIA GT 2003
     
  22. Alpiger

    Alpiger Formula Junior

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    #22 Alpiger, Feb 17, 2015
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  23. Ferrari 308 Vetro

    Ferrari 308 Vetro F1 Rookie

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    This car is Sold!
    It's still advertised, but SOLD to the US!
    Was long time on the market.
    Small racing History, price was around 230.000 EUR.
     
  24. Alpiger

    Alpiger Formula Junior

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    Didn't knew that.
    But as you say,it's still advertise.
     

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